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Started by xbod72 on Sep 11, 2020 7:10:16 PM
Given the topology of the penis, clearly circumcision is impossible so I dunno why people say it happens.

... I shall say more in my next post.

kvelertak - 11 Sep 2020 19:13:46 (#1 of 42)

Just don't go practicing on anyone to prove your point.

xbod72 - 11 Sep 2020 19:14:10 (#2 of 42)

In order to avoid us thinking about babies with erections, let us consider an adult male being circumcised. We cannot get through this without describing WILLIES so if you'd rather not read that, depart now.


So imagine a penis with a foreskin. Now it's erect. Apply downward pressure on the shaft. Foreskin disappears! All you've got is a shaft and a bellend!

Now, you can't sit there and argue "yes, but they don't do it on an erect penis, pulled back." The topology of the penis remains the same no matter the distorting effect.

OK, let's proceed with the surgery. Upward pressure on shaft, foreskin appears, lop it off.

But... if we pull down again... I mean... what... now... how can there not be just a ring around the penis of missing flesh and horribly exposed penis-innards?

Winner - 11 Sep 2020 19:15:41 (#3 of 42)

A classic friday nighter!

xbod72 - 11 Sep 2020 19:15:54 (#4 of 42)

Ha ha, I am sober!

surferboogiewhatever - 11 Sep 2020 20:04:56 (#5 of 42)

Are you sure you mean topology and not topiary?

hailesaladdie - 11 Sep 2020 20:11:19 (#6 of 42)

It's not the full foreskin that's removed. A portion is retained to attach to the rest of the skin, and provide sufficient movement.

The skin of the now exposed penis hardens and desensitises slightly over the few weeks after surgery.

AdonisBlue - 11 Sep 2020 20:15:01 (#7 of 42)

The foreskin is attached below the glans, they remove the foreskin above that point of attachment. So if you attempt to pull it down as you describe it just doesn't pull down and hurts. Even reading your thread hurt me as I'm in the impossible club.

darkhorse - 11 Sep 2020 20:17:43 (#8 of 42)

I take a rather cavalier attitude to this subject.

moto748 - 11 Sep 2020 21:44:54 (#9 of 42)

You make it into a cravat?

xbod72 - 11 Sep 2020 23:23:10 (#10 of 42)

I'm still confused...

A portion is retained to attach to the rest of the skin,

This makes it sound like they cut the foreskin off and then stitch some of it back on to fill the gap. But I don't think that's what happens and I don't think you're giving me bad info, I'm just unable to interpret it correctly.

The foreskin is attached below the glans, they remove the foreskin above that point of attachment. So if you attempt to pull it down as you describe it just doesn't pull down and hurts.

Again, I can't visualise it. When you pull back... it's one continuous skin covered shaft... there's no excess. There appears to be excess when it's over the head. But there isn't. It is not "attached"... the foreskin is just shaft skin that's having a day out.

Like, if someone is very, very overweight they might have skin that flops down over their pubic region but it doesn't mean you can just go in a darkened room out the back of a tattooists and have it removed with a hacksaw because it's a bit dangly and therefore does not constitute a legitimate part of your stomach.

helenskywalker - 11 Sep 2020 23:32:31 (#11 of 42)

I'm firmly crossing my legs and I don't even *have* one. How can you talk about this so, um, cavalierly?

xbod72 - 11 Sep 2020 23:39:21 (#12 of 42)

Well, this is why I have set about establishing that the procedure is clearly an urban myth. The possibility of circumcision doesn't stand up to a close analysis.

helenskywalker - 11 Sep 2020 23:41:19 (#13 of 42)

Maybe some have more skin than others?

Also, did you know that there's no such thing as a hymen?

helenskywalker - 11 Sep 2020 23:41:38 (#14 of 42)

(Also hello, hope you're well)

GyratingTrampoline - 11 Sep 2020 23:58:05 (#15 of 42)

All I know about topology is that I remember Hilary once explaining that topologically speaking, a doughnut and a mobius strip are one and the same. I feel that on this basis a penis is probably topologically equivalent to a vagina. Although fgm seems worse than circumcision so...

Pixiedust - 12 Sep 2020 00:13:45 (#16 of 42)

I am mildly pished, but there was a massive push for male circumcision in Kenya a few years back, on account of the fact that it seems to lower the chances of HIV transmission. Those tribes that don't routinely practise circumcision as coming-of-age ceremonies were encouraged to participate.

I think it was non-surgical/cutting, and that some sort of fancy rubber band was involved.

xbod72 - 12 Sep 2020 00:25:14 (#17 of 42)

"circumcision rollout" - sniggers.

Maybe some have more skin than others?

That is almost certainly the case. But not a factor.

1. No matter how much skin... it's still ultimately all shaft skin.

2. You never hear of a Jewish baby getting to the ceremony and the guy with the surgical instruments saying "sorry, he's not got enough skin and, as we have said for thousands of years 'not enough skin, condemned to sin'."

That doesn't happen.

Also, did you know that there's no such thing as a hymen?

I did not know that. What causes the bleeding?

(Also hello, hope you're well)

I'm wildly up and down but much better the last 5 weeks than the 20-ish weeks before that. How are you?

helenskywalker - 12 Sep 2020 01:10:29 (#18 of 42)

Just a general not readiness, I believe.

I'm fine, love. My kids have turned into teenagers which requires a *lot* more attention. I'm happy to see you're doing so well.

xbod72 - 12 Sep 2020 01:15:57 (#19 of 42)

I'm not sure I would go that far! My mood is bouyant but I am living entirely impractically and I suspect there will be consequences. Basically I'm in a good mood because I'm doing loads of activities I want to do but I am utterly avoiding all the ones I don't want to do. And some of them are going to need to be done.

But thank you.

Teens... yeah, Ethel's son turned 13 recently. And her daughter 11. So Ethel will be having all that fun to deal with for a good while now.

Take care.

xbod72 - 12 Sep 2020 03:14:59 (#20 of 42)

Tried watching a video. I was careful to choose one with only a replica old chap but I still felt nauseous and I have not satisfied myself that I understand having had to switch it off.

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