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Started by JudgeMentalist on Jul 22, 2016 1:25:44 PM
British political dynasties and nepotism

Keeping it in the family is a bad thing for the body politic.

The British like to make this point about US and other foreign nations body political classes, and we know the other parties indulge in this, but it's a real turn off for me now, regards Labour party appeal.

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Winterborne - 25 Jul 2016 17:01:18 (#1 of 123)

Will Straw, Hilary Benn, Stephen Kinnock. Are there others?

RosyLovelady - 25 Jul 2016 17:02:42 (#2 of 123)

Dominic Lawson, son of the formerly fat chancellor. OK he's only a journo, but he's a posh one.

1OffManMental - 25 Jul 2016 17:03:46 (#3 of 123)

There's this family called "The Windors" you may have heard of.

tasselhoff - 25 Jul 2016 17:05:01 (#4 of 123)

The Windors?

Nope, never heard of them.

Winterborne - 25 Jul 2016 17:05:12 (#5 of 123)

But they are not, as far as I am aware, members of the Labour Party.

CharlottePringles - 25 Jul 2016 17:05:15 (#6 of 123)

Clintons. Bushes. Gummers. Churchills.

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Brunothecat - 25 Jul 2016 17:08:40 (#8 of 123)

The wardrobe key bloke, he's related to Churchill is he not?

RosyLovelady - 25 Jul 2016 17:09:17 (#9 of 123)

Aye, Fatty Soames.

RosyLovelady - 25 Jul 2016 17:10:06 (#10 of 123)

Christopher Tugendhat and his son Thomas.

Tangent - 25 Jul 2016 17:10:39 (#11 of 123)

There have been various Labour dynasties, but only Benns have had more than two generations at the same time. At one point, it was positively encouraged. By Malcolm Macdonald's own account, he was offered safe seats on his father's reputation even before he left Oxford, and only settled on Bassetlaw as it was a marginal.

widenation - 25 Jul 2016 17:10:55 (#12 of 123)

Don't forget the Hunt brothers - Tristram and Jeremy.

Arjuna - 25 Jul 2016 17:10:56 (#13 of 123)

There have been four generations of Benns in parliament and tony's grandaughter also ran but failed to get elected.

CharlottePringles - 25 Jul 2016 17:11:59 (#14 of 123)

"The wardrobe key bloke, he's related to Churchill is he not?"

Grandson. Son of Mary Soames who was the son of Winston.

There's also another Winston Churchill who used to be an MP.

Tangent - 25 Jul 2016 17:13:51 (#15 of 123)

The wardrobe key bloke, he's related to Churchill is he not?



I always an enjoy a story from his early childhood:

Young Nicholas Soames, running into Sir Winston's room: Grandpapa, is it true that you are the greatest man in the world?

Sir Winston: Yes. Now bugger off.

Arjuna - 25 Jul 2016 17:15:42 (#16 of 123)

Tony Benn's eldest son has also picked his father's discarded peerage.

Tangent - 25 Jul 2016 17:16:31 (#17 of 123)

Mary Soames who was the son of Winston.



That must have taken some doing.

(Young Winston was his first cousin, the son of young Randolph.)

RosyLovelady - 25 Jul 2016 17:19:43 (#18 of 123)

Young Randolph was a bit of a rent-a-gob on tv in the early 1960s. He seemed rather unpleasant. Drink & disappointed ambition, more than likely.

Winterborne - 25 Jul 2016 17:23:54 (#19 of 123)

Is that the Randolph about whom it was said, on the removal of a benign tumour, (to paraphrase) that the surgeon had managed to find the only non-malignant part of him and excise it?

Tangent - 25 Jul 2016 17:26:30 (#20 of 123)

Randolph wasn't untalented, but was ruined by drinking (allegedly the fault of his godfather, FE Smith as was), and the sense that he only had to wait to step into the shoes that his father and grandfather left behind them. My theory is that political children rarely prosper if their parent is still on the stage.

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