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Started by fenderstrat on Aug 27, 2017 10:53:38 AM
I am wasting my time talking to anti-vaxxers

On other fora, I mean. I think I'd better stop.

fenderstrat - 27 Aug 2017 10:55:53 (#1 of 125)

The killer for me is that when I ask (a) what they would do instead, and (b) what they could conceive of that would make them change their mind, I get nothing. Nada.

The (b) question is significant. There is, I reckon, nothing at all that would cause them to change. This after I have been clear about what would change mine - and yet it is me and those like me who are accused of having entrenched opinions.

WillodeanKnuth - 27 Aug 2017 11:03:02 (#2 of 125)

Welcome to arguing on the internet.

WibbleAgain - 27 Aug 2017 11:05:56 (#3 of 125)

I am wasting my time talking to anti-vaxxers

You must find a better way to spend your time. Life is short.

GrrrIbdis - 27 Aug 2017 11:07:56 (#4 of 125)

Assuming you mean vaccine, not the carpet cleaners, I think the whole area is one where emotional issues were ignored for too long, and now instead of people being able to take a balanced approach, they are faced with emotionally charged decisions of the life and death variety and go into panic mode, hiding totally from any further input, or else wanting to make people do what is good for them, with the same fervour.

I shall never forget my friend's Mum, whose eldest child was brain damaged by the whooping cough vaccine. She refused to vaccinate her second child. People treated her as though she was a nutcase.

indlovubill - 27 Aug 2017 11:10:30 (#5 of 125)

Find a hobby, fenders I doubt you'll find many anti-vaxxers in here, maybe some though. I've never opted for the recommended vaccines when traveling to far off places though I do take anti malarial tablets.

WillodeanKnuth - 27 Aug 2017 11:22:01 (#6 of 125)

Why's that billers? Are you concerned you might be rendered autistic?

Tadagee - 27 Aug 2017 11:23:36 (#7 of 125)

There's no point in talking to antivaxxers in the same way there's no point with climate change deniers.

They dismiss scientific evidence as fraud so there is no starting point for discussion.

Verdigris - 27 Aug 2017 11:25:42 (#8 of 125)

Wot Tad said.

toffle - 27 Aug 2017 11:30:01 (#9 of 125)

It's necessary to talk to anti-vaxxers a little bit, in order to build up a resistance to them. But once you've done that, you should be safe for a few years at least.

Bonusy - 27 Aug 2017 11:37:33 (#10 of 125)


fenderstrat - 27 Aug 2017 11:40:55 (#11 of 125)


On reflection, this is one of the only occasions when a homeopathic dose might have been appropriate.

Tadagee - 27 Aug 2017 11:54:52 (#12 of 125)

This will never ever get tired.

indlovubill - 27 Aug 2017 20:49:29 (#13 of 125)

Why's that billers? Are you concerned you might be rendered autistic?

I'm not entirely happy with mass vaccination and in any case there's no real danger of catching anything serious if you're staying at a Hilton or Intercontinental.

Verdigris - 27 Aug 2017 20:52:43 (#14 of 125)

I'm not entirely happy with mass vaccination

But are happy to ponce off the herd immunity effect of mass vaccination?

indlovubill - 27 Aug 2017 20:55:03 (#15 of 125)

But are happy to ponce off the herd immunity effect of mass vaccination?


fenderstrat - 28 Aug 2017 08:16:34 (#16 of 125)


machiavelli - 28 Aug 2017 08:31:43 (#17 of 125)

I had the usual jabs as a kid, bar TB. I got myself jabbed for yellow fever and one or two others when I went to Zambia yomks ago. I'll never bother with the flu jab.

RosyLovelady - 28 Aug 2017 08:39:00 (#18 of 125)

Some years I've had the flue jab; others I haven't bothered. It doesn't seem to make the slightest difference.

But them I'm just an anecdote, and not a peer-reviewed statistic.

AlanII - 28 Aug 2017 08:50:14 (#19 of 125)

I've had a flu jab for the last few years and haven't had one bout of it since. Also anecdote obviously.

WibbleAgain - 28 Aug 2017 08:54:56 (#20 of 125)

How does this work?

Is it a social duty to have all the vaxes available? Should we make it a legal requirement, like taxation or seat belts?

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