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Started by Anchorman on Apr 29, 2018 9:44:50 PM
New "controllable" infrared heat radiators

Sounds too good to be true

Any thoughts?

See first post for more information

Anchorman - 29 Apr 2018 21:44:56 (#1 of 58)

The following comes from an large advert in a National newspaper:-

Controllable infrared heat( as opposed to on or off infra red available previously

When solids are exposed to infrared the atoms inside get excited,producing heat When a person is exposed to infrared it gives the skin an almost instant feeling of warmth

This contrasts with conventional heating which warms the air inside the room by circulating it – leaving people and objects cold until the ambient air temperature increases to a certain level

Smartwarm heat feels like stepping out of the shade and into the sun. It’s clean comfortable and ideal for any home

It says it’s 40% cheaper to run than traditional heating products but that doesn’t seem to match the fugures they quote as follows

It lists lPG fire (1500-300w) as 42p per hour

Oil filled radiator(1500w) 22 p per hour

infrared panel (900w) 13p per hour

Smart warem radiator (150w) 2.5p per hour

The smartwarm radiator runs at apparently 65c

It sounds as though this is very dodgy but it’s a big advert in a National Newspaper

TRaney - 29 Apr 2018 21:45:43 (#2 of 58)

Anchorman, is the gardening thread still going?

Anchorman - 29 Apr 2018 21:46:59 (#3 of 58)

Yes it's a new version

Here it is

TRaney - 29 Apr 2018 21:48:06 (#4 of 58)


Verdigris - 29 Apr 2018 21:49:30 (#5 of 58)

The physics is sound but a heated throw would be more cost-effective.

Anchorman - 29 Apr 2018 21:54:31 (#6 of 58)

Do you think that a 150watt per hour radiator would keep people warm in a room.

It sounds unlikely to me although as you say the physics seems OK.

If so then this presumably could save a fortune in heating bills.

The advert offers a free 30 day money back guarantee.

bossab2 - 29 Apr 2018 21:57:11 (#7 of 58)

Infrared can be more effective as a use of energy as it does actually heat you. (rather than the entire room).

Infrared is infrared however.

Verdigris - 29 Apr 2018 21:58:15 (#8 of 58)

I would probably keep one person arm if it was close enough.

The price will be enormously inflated to pay for the advert. I expect you can find a similar item on Amazon or Alibaba for much less cash.

Anchorman - 29 Apr 2018 22:00:41 (#9 of 58)

One problem I can see is that presumably only heats the surface that it is pointing at.

So if I was sitting on an office chair as I am now it could only heat one side of me so the other side would be cold, unlike a normal heater which warms the air all around.

I bet these things are damned expensive to buy.( No price on an advert always worries me)

Anchorman - 29 Apr 2018 22:03:15 (#10 of 58)

Checking Ebay I've found a 400 watt panel for £179

frantastic - 29 Apr 2018 23:50:27 (#11 of 58)

In order to warm the skin wouldn't you have to be nekkid?

upgoerfive - 30 Apr 2018 04:45:55 (#12 of 58)

I used to have a (non-adjustable) infrared heater. Worked very well at warming you up quickly (yes, even with clothes on!).

It was a bit of a strange feeling, as it didn't heat the air in the room to any appreciable extent. Tended to feel cold again almost immediately after switching it off.

thisonehasalittlehat - 30 Apr 2018 06:31:55 (#13 of 58)

wonders what normal radiators radiate.

yumyum - 30 Apr 2018 06:47:54 (#14 of 58)

I'm interested in this and really want to sort my heat out before next winter. I have storage heaters that I won't use, hate them, hate their positioning and relied on oil rads to get me through the last few months (I moved in here October). It's cost me a lot of money to heat this (elec only) small house. It's my current project, looking into alternative methods, this sort of thing. All advice welcome.

Verdigris - 30 Apr 2018 08:17:29 (#15 of 58)

wonders what normal radiators radiate.

Normal radiators mostly convect. Only a small proportion of their output is radiated.

SheikYerbouti - 30 Apr 2018 08:37:45 (#16 of 58)

I do like these rancourman technology specials. Next up: are those indestructible shoes from the back of the Sunday supplements *really* indestructible?

upgoerfive - 30 Apr 2018 09:19:45 (#17 of 58)

Let's see!

<fires up Stihl saw ...>

invicta - 30 Apr 2018 09:23:46 (#18 of 58)

Aren't these usually referred to as "space heaters"? By that I don't mean Neil Armstrong space, but rather as heaters for areas where it's not important to maintain a high ambient temperature, but only to provide on demand heating for people. They're very popular in churches and similar spaces for that reason. They'd certainly work but I can't see the advantages in an average home, you'd almost certainly end up with damp/mould issues on cold walls.

Gotout - 30 Apr 2018 09:23:56 (#19 of 58)

#14 Better insulation is usually the best place to begin if you want to improve the warmth of your home.

yumyum - 30 Apr 2018 13:31:53 (#20 of 58)

I've got double glazing and the attic is insulated.

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