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Started by LittleMissMuffet on Jul 24, 2018 12:03:25 PM
Archery

A thread to discuss my new pastime of shooting pointy things at targets with a bow.

For the Lolz I bought a 55lb compound bow off Amazon to shoot on a farm owned by one of the guys I work with. I quickly realised that shooting a hunting bow from one of the Rambo films (yes, really - but I didn't know that when I bought it!) requires proper training.

I'm now one lesson away from completing my privately-coached beginners' course at a local Archery club.

I've discovered what I always suspected: I love the sport and I plan on turning this into a long term hobby.

Any advice re: next steps etc. very much appreciated!

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LittleMissMuffet - 24 Jul 2018 12:07:00 (#1 of 85)

Whilst learning I've been using a 20lb recurve - which is just about fine for up to 20m.

My next step is to invest in a relatively cheap 30lb-ish recurve riser + limbs + other gubbins. Given my current level, the 55lb monster is just silly for use at the club - so I plan on spending the next 12 months or so learning on a slightly more powerful recurve.

My coach reckons I can get a good starter kit for around the £350 level - that includes riser, limbs, strings, arrows, stabilisers, stand, carry bag etc.

Does that sound reasonable?

LittleMissMuffet - 24 Jul 2018 12:07:44 (#2 of 85)

Also, not sure if this will mean much to anyone not directly familiar with the sport, but I've managed to get my 252 @ 20m on my 3rd lesson. I was very happy.

MrPurple - 24 Jul 2018 12:20:41 (#3 of 85)

252@20m is a very good start. I presume that was 5 doz at an 80cm face. Well done.

~350 for a beginners kit is about the right ball park, and a ~30# recurve is a perfect place to start, even if you then move on to the dark side compound. Your club/coach might be able to point you in the direction of some good second hand kit though and that could give you significant saving.

If you are buying new then I'd advise visiting a shop with a range who will let you try out the kit before purchase. http://www.merlinarchery.co.uk/ are very good, but there may be a shop closer to you.

Agaliarept - 24 Jul 2018 12:26:25 (#4 of 85)

I'm officially jealous LMM.

I've decided to take up Archery but have to wait until the babies are a bit less baby...hopefully will take it up in the new year.

Until then, ok if I live vicariously through your Archery endeavours?

LittleMissMuffet - 24 Jul 2018 12:30:02 (#5 of 85)

Fine with me!

Agaliarept - 24 Jul 2018 12:31:18 (#6 of 85)

:D

MrPurple - 24 Jul 2018 12:31:43 (#7 of 85)

Just a thought - be wary of buying kit on ebay. There are some bargains there, but also a lot of overpriced stuff sold by people with no clue. Get advice from someone who knows what they are doing at before going down that route.

LittleMissMuffet - 24 Jul 2018 13:05:24 (#8 of 85)

Fuck ebay, to be frank - I'll go via local members selling their gear (already have an email out to one chap) or specialists like Quicks and Stylist (who rent bows).

MrPurple - 24 Jul 2018 14:19:42 (#9 of 85)

You'll not go far wrong with Stylist. Steve Hallard certainly knows his stuff - you don't get to shoot at 4 olympic games if you don't.

As for next steps;

  • Get an experienced archer or your coach to help set your kit up when you get it.
  • Shoot as often as you can. If you can shoot 2 or 3 times a week you'll progress much quicker than just once a week.
  • Keep a record of your scores, even when practicing. It's a great motivator to see your averages and PBs increasing. There are many apps available for this. I use artemis because I like the way you can plot individual arrow scores and groups </nerd>
  • Don't worry if you plateau occasionally. It happens.
  • Don't be in too much of a hurry to shoot longer distances or smaller faces. Aim to get every arrow in the blue or better before you try for the next distance. Picking arrows out of the grass at every end is no fun and can really slow things down.
  • Enter tournaments. Start with your local club shoots and any from nearby clubs, then perhaps look for a record status shoot or your county championship. Don't be intimidated. The judges and tournament organisers will look after any novices.
  • As you get better, there are a couple of books worth reading. Simon Needham's "The Art of Repetition" is very good. Also "Understanding Winning Archery" by Al Henderson. It's a bit dated but I found his approach to the mental part of the game very valuable.


There's a few things off the top of my head - hope you find that useful. Doubtless you'll have more questions. Happy to help where I can.

rgtstoppedcounting - 24 Jul 2018 14:51:15 (#10 of 85)

Take up Field.

Get an ILF riser & limbs rather than getting trapped in a proprietary dead end.

Develop a patronising attitude towards compound shooters as early as possible.

Avoid all contact with crossbow nuts.

MrPurple - 24 Jul 2018 14:55:39 (#11 of 85)

and crossbow bolts

MrPurple - 24 Jul 2018 16:59:20 (#12 of 85)

ILF is a certainly a good way to go too. Get the best riser and sight you can afford as they'll last for years. Limbs and arrows will need to be changed as you get better/stronger anyway so not a lot of point spending tons on them to start off with.

Having said that, I have 4 takedown recurves and not one of them is ILF. Three of them are pre-ILF. They all shoot straighter than I do.

On an unrelated note, I seem to have quite a lot of difficulty in selling bows I no longer shoot. This is entirely normal.

LittleMissMuffet - 07 Aug 2018 13:06:35 (#13 of 85)

Right, finished off my visit to Quicks this morning over lunch and I'm now the proud owner of this set...

https://www.quicksarchery.co.uk/index.php?route=pr
oduct/product&path=19_502&product_id=4714


Spent 30 mins shooting ends with no breaks on their 20y range making sure I was ok with the 25lb (not 24 per the limbs' official poundage) draw weight for an extended period. All good, happy shopper me!

Now just need to get hold of the key for the local range and I'm good to actually start shooting, whoop whoop!

MrPurple - 07 Aug 2018 13:13:26 (#14 of 85)

Nice one. Let us know how you get on.

foghorn - 07 Aug 2018 13:50:34 (#15 of 85)

We seem to have quite a few archers on this site. Never been a better time to take it up from the look of it.

My first bow was a very butch, totally inappropriate recurve. The first one I came across for sale and my arrows were an interesting mix. One of them might even have matched. Got the bug and luckily avoided injury though.

I´m a member of a historic archery company, but have only really been keeping up with the subs for a while. My love affair has steadily gravitated towards the primitive and instinctive. Its something akin to experimental archaeology with kit, but with a nice arrow tester, digital scales for tillering and modern bowstrings.

LittleMissMuffet - 07 Aug 2018 13:58:06 (#16 of 85)

The sport suits me down to the ground - I can do it alone, if I so choose, at pretty much any time light permitting, and it involves endless repetition and fine tuning of the exact same movement until the arrow hits the centre of the target over and over again.

Now just need to get adjust properly to the new bow and break the rest of the kit in.

MrPurple - 07 Aug 2018 14:07:13 (#17 of 85)

I've been shooting english longbow for a couple of seasons now, having been mainly shooting target recurve up until then. Longbow is much more fun I find. Unfortunately there are not many ELB shooters up here in Scotland. I'm intrigued to try shooting a warbow, which I know is a very different weapon and style.

rgtstoppedcounting - 07 Aug 2018 14:09:57 (#18 of 85)

Unfortunately there are not many ELB shooters up here in Scotland.

Actually quite a few here in the Borders (there's a fun shoot at Leitholm each summer and another at Wally Scott's old gaff plus the odd Clout shoot just over the border around Ford/Etal) and there's a club at Inverness.

Brunothecat - 07 Aug 2018 14:13:44 (#19 of 85)

Interesting read this thread, for someone who knows nothing of the subject like myself. Hate to out myself as stupid, but I'm sstonished now many things are in the kit.

rgtstoppedcounting - 07 Aug 2018 14:15:09 (#20 of 85)

Hate to out myself as stupid

Why do it hourly for years on end then?

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