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Started by Leftie on Sep 10, 2019 12:04:55 PM
Would you recruit a member of staff just because they were similar to yourself?

This is a common phenomenon in recruiting, sometimes called "homophily": people tend to hire people who think (and often look) like themselves. It is validating to be surrounded by people who share one's perspectives and beliefs. Indeed, brain scans suggest that when others reflect our own thoughts back to us, it stimulates the pleasure centres of our brains.

But I don't get why you would hire someone just because they were similar to yourself. It might be sub-conscious at some level but I don't think it would bother me at all.

I've had some awful interviews, one where I was asked if I needed child-care vouchers and one where I was asked which bars I go to. Sod all to do with the job.

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Leftie - 10 Sep 2019 12:05:47 (#1 of 62)

Maybe I should go into HR. I couldn't do a worse job than some of the people I've been interviewed by.

Brunothecat - 10 Sep 2019 12:10:04 (#2 of 62)

Of course not. I would hire workaholics who are very strict timekeepers and have no real interest in financial reward but see hard work as a virtue in itself.

The exact opposite, in fact.

pranzingfrogg - 10 Sep 2019 12:11:57 (#3 of 62)

Exactly. Too many tea swilling clock watchers who had lost interest in the job would ruin my business.

No way would i recruit people like me.

thisonehasalittlehat - 10 Sep 2019 12:12:22 (#4 of 62)

I'd hire gandhi. Because that would be interesting.

FrankieTeardrop - 10 Sep 2019 12:13:29 (#5 of 62)

"I've had some awful interviews, one where I was asked if I needed child-care vouchers and one where I was asked which bars I go to. Sod all to do with the job."

The first is irrelevant, the second is trying to find out a bit more about you as a person.

Moschops - 10 Sep 2019 12:14:41 (#6 of 62)

I would only hire people who get things done and shout a lot.

thisonehasalittlehat - 10 Sep 2019 12:14:44 (#7 of 62)

They're both potentially discriminatory questions.

Leftie - 10 Sep 2019 12:15:06 (#8 of 62)

I don't know a great deal about it but surely, just tell people what the job will be and what they'll have to do and a suitable test if need be. No stupid questions, or stupid tests. I've seen some weird things on the boards as well where people have been asked to do all kinds of stupid things at job interviews.

I went for one job where I was given a laptop to use. I haven't used a lap top. I didn't even hand the assignment in. There was no mouse. I didn't have the sense to explain that I didn't know how to use it.

It turns out it had no relevance to the job anyway.

HouseOfLametta - 10 Sep 2019 12:17:31 (#9 of 62)

No I would not. I've got the biscuits in this place worked out. Where they are kept, when they are unguarded and how to get to them quickly. I don't need any competition, thank you.

monkeymadchick - 10 Sep 2019 12:18:19 (#10 of 62)

If this is true I am much,much better looking than I thought.

hailesaladdie - 10 Sep 2019 12:18:31 (#11 of 62)

> They're both potentially discriminatory questions.

Yeah, I'd steer well away from those.

But I do try and find something non-work related to talk about to. Quite apart from anything else, you're going to be spending half your waking hours around this person, during the week.

Leftie - 10 Sep 2019 12:18:41 (#12 of 62)

#7 You are right about bars but that was my fault. I was just sort of chatting about it. It wasn't a bad interview to tell you the truth I felt like I could just chat without feeling like I was on trial! It's not the way to conduct an interview but it was just a conversation really. Just chatting like you would in the pub. It's not very professional but it wasn't the end of the world.

I did get the job but I was bullied soon after. Some sort of internal argument. Another manager wanted to hire me but that one didn't. But that's not my fault. That's between those two.

pranzingfrogg - 10 Sep 2019 12:19:41 (#13 of 62)

There seems to be a fad now for dreaming up different ways of assessing job applicants:

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/careers/unusual-recruitment-better-candidates

thisonehasalittlehat - 10 Sep 2019 12:20:35 (#14 of 62)

Google I think famously had some questionable processes, although that was largely to narrow-down the application pool.

Leftie - 10 Sep 2019 12:22:59 (#15 of 62)

I think if you aren't that bothered about the job or the business or the company/whatever and you've had terrible interview questions then phone back and complain to the person above them about it.

If there is anyone above them. I once got asked if I was married in a job interview. That is bang out of order. I don't see what it has to do with anything. But it was a family business so there was nobody above her to complain to. One of the other staff had a go at her though about it.

pranzingfrogg - 10 Sep 2019 12:25:44 (#16 of 62)

I quite enjoyed the two day recruitment seminar (or whatever it was called) for the home civil service (even though I didn’t get a job offer, chiz). They were trying to find high flyers, people who could go straight in as junior mandarins, and there were psychological interviews, exercises on resolving international conflicts and the like.

Catspyjamas17 - 10 Sep 2019 12:28:24 (#17 of 62)

I think most people find it hard to avoid unconscious bias. IME there is a lot of conscious bias going on as well when it comes to what schools and universities candidates have been to, for certain roles. Effectively then you are often choosing people by what social class they belong to.

Leftie - 10 Sep 2019 12:31:37 (#18 of 62)

That's true. There's still age discrimination as well. For instance, some application forms want the dates of your exams. They can work out the age from those.

It's stupid.

WibbleAgain - 10 Sep 2019 12:33:37 (#19 of 62)

It's life, Leftie.

Catspyjamas17 - 10 Sep 2019 12:34:13 (#20 of 62)

I did the CS Fast Stream exams and failed. Twice. IMO it would have helped with the types of questions to have had to do either the eleven plus or selection exams for schools earlier in my life*. So it seemed to me that they were preferring people from certain schools, shock horror.

*Or to have had the internet available and have practice tests as you probably could now.

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