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Started by Dubris on Apr 20, 2021 11:38:03 AM

Laboured whimsy, occasional seriousness and the fact that the farmer and the cowboy should be friends.

Talk about it here.

LippyPongstocking - 20 Apr 2021 11:39:41 (#1 of 2023)

First! Which is appropriate, given the thread title.

Cordelia - 20 Apr 2021 11:40:25 (#2 of 2023)


Or 93rd on my delivery driver’s schedule.

Bodgit - 20 Apr 2021 11:40:57 (#3 of 2023)

3rd the one with the...oh.

Antimatter - 20 Apr 2021 11:42:13 (#4 of 2023)

I am still curious about Yvette Fielding.

That is quite enough coffee, I now have a list of mundane tasks to attend to.

TauCeti - 20 Apr 2021 11:48:41 (#5 of 2023)

FIFTH! dunno what this is all about but might as well...

HollyGolightly - 20 Apr 2021 11:54:12 (#6 of 2023)

I do like the word shibboleth.

PreachyPreach - 20 Apr 2021 11:56:13 (#7 of 2023)

I really have trouble saying it.

Which I think caused some people big problems once.

LippyPongstocking - 20 Apr 2021 12:09:40 (#8 of 2023)

I'm excited because I've ordered lots of lovely fishy/seafood things for the weekend: clams, crab cakes, wild red shrimp, mussels, and that 1970s favourite, whitebait!

MadamGwenver - 20 Apr 2021 12:10:28 (#9 of 2023)

The real life shibboleth of Aitch/Haitch is one of my favourite things I learned from Sorcha.

Catspyjamas17 - 20 Apr 2021 12:12:36 (#10 of 2023)

The Yvette Fielding thing might be because I mentioned Most Haunted somewhere on the internets. Spooky! Or just an algorithm.

I don't think I've ever said shibboleth out loud.

Sabacious - 20 Apr 2021 12:16:17 (#11 of 2023)

Slicey - I missed your post on the previous thread. Basically Hoffmann doesn't do experiments at all - he sort of has a go but its just a one-off blind tasting. Its fine, he clearly knows his stiff and can pick a duff cup of coffee out of a crowd with no problem, so I was perfectly happy with his conclusions that inverting. wetting the filter etc all had no effect whatsoever on the coffee, but that a 2 minute steep time and using boiling rather than 85C water do improve things. When I can be arsed I'm going to have a play and see if |I can taste what he does.

There is a lot of confirmation bias, but he is aware of that, but I think it quite clearly shows that, as you say, there is a whole world of nonsense out there that can be safely ignored.

slicey - 20 Apr 2021 12:46:02 (#12 of 2023)

The thing with the steep is that brewing basically stops (or asymptotically approaches zero) so most of the brewing does get done pretty quickly. Which is why things like V60s work without any sort of protracted steeping going on.

On temperatures, I have long used 98C water and never had much truck with lower temps. Also as his previous demos have shown the temperature of the slurry drops off 5-10 degrees really quickly so... The 0 level physicist in me does have a theory that if maintaining high thermal mass during brewing is what we really want then the experiment he should be doing is using a ceramic V60 but pre-heating it a lot and covering the thing with a lid.

Also roasting is very significant here and modern light roasts need as much help from temp. as they can get. I daresay Mr Frisbee was making city roast commodity coffee when he designed the thing not some small lot, lightly roasted rarity from Burundi.

Sabacious - 20 Apr 2021 12:58:33 (#13 of 2023)

Yes, good point about the roast, which he also did allude to in the video.

Do you think everyone else is bored yet?

helenskywalker - 20 Apr 2021 13:05:23 (#14 of 2023)

It's better than Losts trying to talk about football.

Crayola - 20 Apr 2021 13:12:38 (#15 of 2023)

I have done tuesday HIIT whilst fueled by coffee and now I have that weird caffeine feeling of wearing a too tight hat.

limegreen - 20 Apr 2021 13:14:12 (#16 of 2023)

#10 Shhh! Cats, you're not meant to. I thought everyone knew that.

binturong - 20 Apr 2021 13:16:55 (#17 of 2023)

That coffee article said "A third species - Liberica (Coffea liberica) is grown around the world, but is rarely used for coffee drinks." Which made me wonder what it is used for.

The answer appears to be that it is used for coffee, which people drink, in places that can't grow Arabica.

slicey - 20 Apr 2021 13:37:28 (#18 of 2023)

It's better than Losts trying to talk about football

Yeah, that one time Ric started on about false nines and the evolution of the pressing game was totes cringe.

Dubris - 20 Apr 2021 13:45:42 (#19 of 2023)

<nods sagely>

Is a false nine actually an upside down six?

DejaLu - 20 Apr 2021 14:13:15 (#20 of 2023)

Oh, Preachy! You stole my joke from 3 threads ago!

<makes a note>

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