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Started by TheVoiceOfReason on Nov 8, 2019 10:49:30 AM
Ankara and Cappadocia

Thinking of taking a short break over the first May Bank Holiday, flying to Ankara, a two/three day tour of Cappadocia and then home. Has anyone been to Ankara? What’s it like? And what about Cappadocia, is it over-touristed or still special despite the coachloads? I saw a documentary about it years ago and have always meant to head off there.

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Arjuna - 08 Nov 2019 10:57:17 (#1 of 27)

We need a 'Places the oiks haven't spoilt' thread

dottie30 - 08 Nov 2019 11:02:29 (#2 of 27)

Ankara is shit. The dullest place in Turkey. Seriously - it's one place you shouldn't bother with. Where have you been in Turkey? Because there are places to visit way, way, way before Ankara unless you are desperate to bow down before Ataturk's corpse.

Cappadocia though.... Never been despite having been to Turkey lots and always wanting to go. Mainly because you really only should go either spring or autumn. It's meltingly hot in summer and well below freezing in winter. If I were you, if it's a short break; there's loads to do just there. Otherwise, if you haven't been to Dalyan - that might be an interesting diversion - better than Ankara anyway. Or Pammukkale - in May it won't be so horrendously crowded.

browserbutton - 08 Nov 2019 11:05:49 (#3 of 27)

'Places the oiks haven't spoilt'

The 'fairy chimneys' of Cappadocia are on everyone's bucket list nowadays.

dottie30 - 08 Nov 2019 11:11:47 (#4 of 27)

But still out of reach for most people because it's Turkey (and all sorts of prejudices crop up when you mention Turkey whether it's terrorism, Erodgan or the idea that it is full of lagered up chavs in Marmaris); or because Cappadocia is actually a bit out of people's way. It's not on the coast and you have to make an effort to get there.

May is pretty much bang in the middle of the 'Cappadocia season' though (which ends in June and starts again in September) so there will be plenty of tourists but it's still not visited so much it's all pushy and shovy. I don't think it's like Ephesus yet.

TheVoiceOfReason - 08 Nov 2019 11:15:01 (#5 of 27)

I’ve only been to Istanbul and Gallipoli in Turkey. I’m interested to see Ankara as I have a bit of a thing for created capitals (have been to DC, Canberra, Astana, next year Brasilia, still on the list - Abuja) and leaders’ mausoleums.

browserbutton - 08 Nov 2019 11:16:01 (#6 of 27)

The Cappadocian skies are full of hot air balloons these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYCI1-BZmZY

dottie30 - 08 Nov 2019 11:22:17 (#7 of 27)

OK fair enough. But you'll be bored VOR. I mean, it's May and you've got the chance to be in Bodrum - not only by the sea and definitely the most liberal and cosmopolitan place in Turkey but also the capital of ancient Caria - land of Artemesia and home to one of the seven wonders of the world and incredible Aegean food. With a pretty intact amphitheatre (both Hellenic and Roman); some interesting old Carian ruins at Pedasa - and disgraceful wealth on show from the yacht poseurs in Yalikavak.

But choose Ankara if you must...

bossab2 - 08 Nov 2019 11:26:20 (#8 of 27)

Cool balloon video.

TheVoiceOfReason - 08 Nov 2019 11:28:05 (#9 of 27)

TBH I’ve seen enough Roman ruins to last a lifetime and the mausoleum really appeals :-)

dottie30 - 08 Nov 2019 11:33:26 (#10 of 27)

OK, and there is a good museum in Ankara in all fairness which shows just what a huge range of civilisations graced Anatolia.

Arjuna - 08 Nov 2019 11:44:24 (#11 of 27)

where can you get a decent kebab?

HouseOfLametta - 08 Nov 2019 11:46:26 (#12 of 27)

Catford.

FrankieTeardrop - 08 Nov 2019 12:01:00 (#13 of 27)

"(have been to DC, Canberra, Astana, next year Brasilia, still on the list - Abuja)"

Have you been to Milton Keynes? Spookily similar to Canberra.

nac1001 - 08 Nov 2019 12:07:51 (#14 of 27)

If you are into new capitals try Yamoussoukro with its basilica, the largest in the world.

dottie30 - 08 Nov 2019 12:08:26 (#15 of 27)

Re Cappadocia - if you can afford a private guide, I'd get one. They are actually very good in Turkey - most have degrees in tourism and in Turkey that means studying the ancient history of Turkey a fair bit. And they have to be approved by the state. In Cappadocia, they'll also be able to get you deeper into the cave dwellings most likely.

HelenDamnation - 08 Nov 2019 12:18:53 (#16 of 27)

If you are remotely claustrophobic, the underground cities will be challenging - and for anyone who isn't hobbit height, there's a LOT of bending and crawling to get to the lower levels.

TheVoiceOfReason - 08 Nov 2019 12:19:57 (#17 of 27)

That’s striking fear into my heart Helen, fellow tall person.

dottie30 - 08 Nov 2019 12:22:32 (#18 of 27)

But if you get to the ones with the still existing early Christian paintings, I'm sure it's pretty bloody amazing.

And another thing - I've heard the caves are a welcome relief from the heat.

browserbutton - 08 Nov 2019 12:23:58 (#19 of 27)

If you really like caves you can stay in a luxury cave suite:

http://www.sultancavesuites.com/en

Arjuna - 08 Nov 2019 12:29:46 (#20 of 27)

Astana is now Nur Sultan

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