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Started by SlasherBindman on Sep 25, 2012 8:51:08 AM
Badger cull vuvuzela protest: up or down with this sort of thing?

Animal rights activists plan to subject farmers in badger cull zones to a campaign of sleep deprivation in an attempt to make them drop their support for the killings.

shadwell - 25 Sep 2012 10:15:00 (#1 of 236)

Won't that scare off the badgers, too?

BawbagMcWimoweh - 25 Sep 2012 10:22:57 (#2 of 236)

I hope the farmers set their sheep on them.

There does need to be a badger cull. I wiped one out on the road the other week and I was lucky it didn't damage my car. They're not like pheasants where you don't even have to slow down or change direction.

A colleague took out a badger and it cost about a grands worth of damage to his engine.

toffle - 25 Sep 2012 10:26:35 (#3 of 236)

Yes, those badgers attacking cars have to be stopped, by genocide if necessary.

Tenesmus - 25 Sep 2012 10:27:07 (#4 of 236)


trainspotter9018 - 25 Sep 2012 10:36:56 (#5 of 236)

I'm not sure really. I'm sure there's a case that can be made for the cull, but I get the feeling it's being done to keep the CA, NFU et al onside, that it's a substitute for unbanning hunting.

LittleMissMuffet - 25 Sep 2012 10:37:31 (#6 of 236)

Zulu vulva, ffs

UnequalTwin - 25 Sep 2012 10:50:24 (#7 of 236)

I am sure there's a case for and against, but I'm also sure that harrassing people isn't the way to make either one.

browserbutton - 25 Sep 2012 10:57:06 (#8 of 236)

Where did the badgers originally catch 'bovine TB' I wonder?

TommyDGNR8 - 25 Sep 2012 10:59:58 (#9 of 236)

The only good that ever came of a vuvuzela...

Smollett - 25 Sep 2012 11:13:41 (#10 of 236)

The problem with badger culls

"10 years ago the government took a very unusual step, and set up a proper trial: the Randomised Badger Culling Trial. This was a huge project, running from 1998 to 2007, in 30 separate 100km2 areas around England.

"These study zones were grouped together into triplets. One zone in a triplet got repeated culling, roughly once a year ("proactive culling"). Another saw local badger culling after any TB outbreak in cattle ("reactive culling"). And a final zone was kept as a "control" region, with no culling. TB rates were surveyed in all of the areas.

"You'd have thought this culling should do some good, or at least no harm. In fact, the "reactive culling" was stopped after a few years when the rates of cattle TB infections in these areas turned out to be higher than areas with no culling, by about 20%."

trainspotter9018 - 25 Sep 2012 11:16:29 (#11 of 236)

I have this idea that badgers move and spread anything they've got if you cull them.

MaisonLazlique - 25 Sep 2012 11:19:09 (#12 of 236)

Yes, they run off. As you would expect.

Smollett - 25 Sep 2012 11:27:05 (#13 of 236)

Shropshire badger vaccination starts

"Badgers are being vaccinated against tuberculosis (TB) in Shropshire in a bid to prevent the spread of the disease among cattle. The five-year scheme, launched by Shropshire Wildlife Trust, is in response to a government-run trial badger cull in Gloucestershire..."

Snarlygog - 25 Sep 2012 11:52:12 (#14 of 236)

Its it wise to goad armed angry farmers ?

UnequalTwin - 25 Sep 2012 11:55:55 (#15 of 236)

Ask Alan Partridge.

MaisonLazlique - 25 Sep 2012 11:56:48 (#16 of 236)

Yes you must do whatever angry farmers want. They are famously well-balanced and experienced.

Smollett - 25 Sep 2012 12:03:25 (#17 of 236)

Can't think it's a good idea politically. It may be popular among those who'd support the Tories anyway but is likely to alienate middle-England voters.

Jacob_Richter - 25 Sep 2012 12:09:49 (#18 of 236)

You must do as farmers want otherwise they'll erect massive pink 'VOTE UKIP' signs up on major trunk roads.

dottie30 - 25 Sep 2012 12:40:31 (#19 of 236)

This issue has raised over the required 100k signatures on the government epetition site against the proposed cull in just a week. Which is impressive.

These animal rights activists can mobilise support better than the pro-death penalty lobby.

trainspotter9018 - 25 Sep 2012 12:53:50 (#20 of 236)

Yes, and they can probably come up with better tactics than this.

If people turn up with vuvuzelas, farmers'll just call the police, put the earplugs in, and wait until they're removed, I suppose.

Pro-badger lot may just be saying they're going to do this, while they'll do something else in practice, however.

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