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Started by 1MELSM on Nov 2, 2012 12:22:04 PM
Dennis MacShane MP to be suspended for 12 months?
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Tangent - 02 Nov 2012 12:24:33 (#1 of 239)

If that stands, he's gone, practically. He will face intense pressure to vacate his seat.

1MELSM - 02 Nov 2012 12:25:21 (#2 of 239)

It sounds serious.

trainspotter9018 - 02 Nov 2012 12:29:16 (#3 of 239)

It's a pity, if it's true. I don't agree with everything he says, but he does make some of the more intelligent contributions, has been one of the better Labour MPs of recent times. Maybe he's tried to be a bit too clever.

MonsoonBloom - 02 Nov 2012 12:30:17 (#4 of 239)

Without pay?

Brunothecat - 02 Nov 2012 12:30:33 (#5 of 239)

The false invoices related to work Mr MacShane carried out in Europe and he was particularly criticised for his use of public money for European travel.

The Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards said the "real mischief" of Mr MacShane's actions was submitting invoices that bypassed the "checks and controls" of the House and "enabled Mr MacShane to spend public money as he thought fit".

MacShane is an arrogant little cunt, he displays exactly the sense of self righteous exemption from actually obeying the law as some of the NI defendants have exhibited in court and at Leveson. They live in a different world, according to themselves.

MacShane seems to be apologising on behalf of the Commissioner For Standards for criticising him.

In a statement on his website, Mr MacShane said: "Clearly I deeply regret that the way I chose to be reimbursed for costs related to my work in Europe and in combating anti-semitism, including being the prime minister's personal envoy, has been judged so harshly.

Its horrid of you to judge submitting false invoices harshly.

MonsoonBloom - 02 Nov 2012 12:31:45 (#6 of 239)

I deeply regret [I] have been judged so harshly. LOL! classy.

1MELSM - 02 Nov 2012 12:31:55 (#7 of 239)

Mind you, how very EU:

The false invoices related to work Mr MacShane carried out in Europe and he was particularly criticised for his use of public money for European travel.

The Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards said the "real mischief" of Mr MacShane's actions was submitting invoices that bypassed the "checks and controls" of the House and "enabled Mr MacShane to spend public money as he thought fit".

Brunothecat - 02 Nov 2012 12:32:54 (#8 of 239)

Dennis MacShane is the EUs fault?

Now I've heard it all.

1MELSM - 02 Nov 2012 12:34:49 (#9 of 239)

No, the spending, the Easyattitude to 'checks and controls'.

1MELSM - 02 Nov 2012 12:38:50 (#10 of 239)

Quick response from Wikipedia:

Denis MacShane (born 21 May 1948) is a British Labour[2] politician, who has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for Rotherham since the 1994 by-election and served as the Minister for Europe from 2002 until 2005, as well as being a current Policy Council member for Labour Friends of Israel.[3] On 2 November 2012, he was suspended from the Labour party and the commons after a Parliamentary committee found that he had submitted 19 false invoices "plainly intended to deceive" Parliament's expenses authority.[4].

Brunothecat - 02 Nov 2012 12:39:59 (#11 of 239)

No, the spending, the Easyattitude to 'checks and controls'.

He is accused of submitting false invoices. I don't really see how he can blame anyone other than himself.

1MELSM - 02 Nov 2012 12:47:46 (#12 of 239)

The MP, who was suspended from the Labour Party this morning, said he was "shocked and saddened" that his political career had been destroyed and was now considering his position.

Labour declared Mr MacShane's career as a Labour MP to be "effectively over".

A party spokesman said: "These are very serious findings concerning Denis MacShane and we accept his statement this morning that his career as a Labour MP is effectively over.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mp-denis-macshane-is-suspended-over-string-of-illegitimate-expenses-claims-8277308.html

SlasherBindman - 02 Nov 2012 12:56:28 (#13 of 239)

Ungenerous Twitter reaction from 'convicted drink driver' Paul Staines:

Guido Fawkes ‏@GuidoFawkes

You're the most disgusting crook to shame parliament. You should be in jail. Political obit fraudster, liar, cheat and thief @DenisMacShane

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SlasherBindman - 02 Nov 2012 13:00:21 (#15 of 239)

ForbiddenApple claimed to have worked with MacShane in the EU and was very scathing.

trainspotter9018 - 02 Nov 2012 13:04:11 (#16 of 239)

"I am obviously desperately sorry for any embarrassment I have caused my beloved Labour Party and its leader Ed Miliband whom I greatly admire."

Heh. Aye. Well. Mm.

Brunothecat - 02 Nov 2012 13:09:27 (#17 of 239)

On this record, his cunt credentials are pretty damned solid.

oted a mixture of for and against laws to stop climate change. votes

Voted strongly for more EU integration. votes

Voted moderately for allowing ministers to intervene in inquests. votes

Voted moderately against a transparent Parliament. votes

Voted moderately for automatic enrolment in occupational pensions. votes

Voted a mixture of for and against encouraging occupational pensions. votes

Voted a mixture of for and against a more proportional system for electing MPs. votes

Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes

Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war. votes

Voted a mixture of for and against removing hereditary peers from the House of Lords. votes

Voted strongly for a wholly elected House of Lords. votes

Voted very strongly for introducing ID cards. votes

Has never voted on replacing Trident. votes

Voted moderately for the hunting ban. votes

Voted very strongly for a stricter asylum system. votes

Voted moderately against increasing the rate of VAT. votes

Voted moderately for university tuition fees. votes

Voted against raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year. votes

Voted moderately against greater autonomy for schools. votes

Voted moderately for a smoking ban. votes

Voted moderately for equal gay rights. votes

Voted strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes

Voted very strongly for introducing foundation hospitals.

mountebank - 02 Nov 2012 13:09:38 (#18 of 239)

One of his mates is on the radio right now saying that the complaint against MacShane shouldn't have been followed up because it came from the BNP.

1MELSM - 02 Nov 2012 13:15:04 (#19 of 239)

That was Mark Stephens. Is that the media lawyer? I thought he made a bit of a twit of himself. When even MacShane says his actions were wrong, what is there left to argue or get annoyed about?

mountebank - 02 Nov 2012 13:16:36 (#20 of 239)

Because as his mate so clearly explained, discovering that MacShane faked invoices means handing victory to fascists.

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