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Started by GreenFuture on Sep 20, 2015 9:56:13 PM
Is There Enough Child Malnutrition?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/educat
ion-news/free-school-meals-for-infants-set-to-be-scrapped-under-osbornes-spending-review-10509664.html


This is what happens when not enough proles kill themselves, some of the shits end up breeding. Next thing you know, they are wanting to eat FOOD.

This may be one of the richest counties in the 21st century world, but there have to be limits.

The tories had to lie about not scrapping this policy before the election, but that's just because of political correctness. Now they can treat us all as stupid and go back to the neccessary great work of smashing the poor to fucking bits.

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Ebadlun - 20 Sep 2015 21:59:06 (#1 of 73)

So, Corbyn is pilloried for shifting position on stuff he wasn't committed to five years before an election - and Cameron gets a free pass for blatantly abandoning concrete manifesto commitments.

GreenFuture - 20 Sep 2015 22:01:31 (#2 of 73)

Corbyn is like Beelzebub and Stalin rolled into one though, he doesn't seem to believe in childhood malnutrition at all.

At least Camerons lies are about making the poor more miserable, a wholesome tradition in line with Christs teachings.

col2001 - 20 Sep 2015 22:12:48 (#3 of 73)

This at least will be seen as a national government decision.

Many other vile cuts, affecting things like one-to-one support for SEN kids, have been channelled through local authorities and LEAs.

TRaney - 20 Sep 2015 22:28:23 (#4 of 73)

Cameron gets a free pass for blatantly abandoning concrete manifesto commitments.

If only they're were someone with a constitutional right to challenge and confront the government

SlasherBindman - 20 Sep 2015 22:49:10 (#5 of 73)

Time for canny lad Corbyn to provide some opposition.

thatshallot - 20 Sep 2015 22:54:19 (#6 of 73)

Ya think, DiNozzo?

GreenFuture - 20 Sep 2015 23:46:47 (#7 of 73)

Col2001

affecting things like one-to-one support for SEN kids, have been channelled through local authorities and LEAs.

Excellent point.

This points at the real reason for Osbornes supposed devolution lie.

Devolve the blame (as well as facilitating more privatisation carpetbagging for their disgusting friends and donors)

Pentecost - 21 Sep 2015 00:03:43 (#8 of 73)

Cameron gets a free pass for blatantly abandoning concrete manifesto commitments.

As if a manifesto has meant anything concrete in the last few decades. There is no requirement to do any of it: it's just a sales pitch with built-in mission-creep.

Macpaddy - 21 Sep 2015 01:37:33 (#9 of 73)

Fezzi will be along in a while to point out the benefits of this unspeakable action. No doubt blaming Blair and denying that Cameron lied.

jamalade - 21 Sep 2015 06:38:29 (#10 of 73)

I am sorry to butt in but (heh) their is something on my mind when reading about this.

My Mammy and us (I was nine) moved from the republic to Norn Iron. Without problems, seemingly to my siblings and I, we were accepted at a wonderful primary school. There was milk in the morning, then sometime late spring or maybe the late term in 1979 (this is from memory, I might be wrong on the date and I post without GIUF) the milk stopped.

Since then the "Thatcher the milk snatcher" phrase has been used very often. Question (and yes, GIYF but I think that my query has some relevance to this thread), was the policy not thought up by a previous government of which Thatcher's government acted upon?

jamalade - 21 Sep 2015 07:32:37 (#11 of 73)

Oops. *there

SGM1A1 - 21 Sep 2015 08:15:51 (#12 of 73)

She became known as 'the milk snatcher' when she was Education Secretary in Heath's government.

Free school milk for secondary schoolkids had already been ended by Wilson's government. As Education Secretary she ended free school milk for primary school children over 7. This was further reduced to allow free school milk for only those under 5 during her first government as PM.

pmcblonde - 21 Sep 2015 08:33:45 (#13 of 73)

The free school meals for all ks1 children was a LD coalition policy and has been a disaster. It was rushed in with no consideration for school facilities and because parents no longer had to apply for free school meals schools lost pupil premium for many children from disadvantaged backgrounds as FSM was one of the key criteria for targeting support.

It has royally fucked up very stretched school budgets and reduced support for children from low income families

jamalade - 21 Sep 2015 08:37:59 (#14 of 73)

Ah, thank you for that and your patience at the bad posting. She was indeed "Thatcher the milk snatcher". Again, thank you for the clarification.

milhouse - 21 Sep 2015 09:39:09 (#15 of 73)

You have to wonder whether giving free meals to kids whose parents can afford to pay for them is the best way either to use resources or to reduce child malnutrition. I know how to feed my kids, and I can afford to do it. So why do I need free meals?

RoscoePColtrane - 21 Sep 2015 09:41:42 (#16 of 73)

The argument is that a nutritious, hot meal is better for a growing child than the typical packed lunch that even the most Sharp Elbowed of Hard Working Families will give their kids, morbs.

milhouse - 21 Sep 2015 09:48:36 (#17 of 73)

The argument is that a nutritious, hot meal is better for a growing child than the typical packed lunch that even the most Sharp Elbowed of Hard Working Families will give their kids, mobs.

Yes - well done. You managed to miss the point entirely.

pmcblonde - 21 Sep 2015 09:49:11 (#18 of 73)

So they can buy school dinners rather than having them for free.

milhouse - 21 Sep 2015 09:50:13 (#19 of 73)

The point is that free school meals have an important part to play for kids who otherwise wouldn't get this delicious, piping hot meal anywhere else. Or indeed the lukewarm sludge too many schools still serve.

But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to waste resources on giving it to kids who don't need a free school meal.

milhouse - 21 Sep 2015 09:54:37 (#20 of 73)

To be honest, I'd ban packed lunches for anyone who doesn't have a specific medical requirement backed up by a doctor's note.

I can't think of a better way to get school meal standards up quicksticks and keep them high. You can mock 'sharp-elbowed parents' as much as you like, but they have their uses.

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