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Started by Natascha on 23-Jan-2017 15:27:28
Something Corbynian


Carry on again.

Lawlsie - 23 Jan 2017 15:31:17 (#1 of 10128)

Hello shiny new thread.

ThreeFlewOver - 23 Jan 2017 15:32:17 (#2 of 10128)

Something Something Dark Side

lusmeri1 - 23 Jan 2017 15:32:23 (#3 of 10128)

Something Cooperian.

GreenFuture - 23 Jan 2017 15:33:02 (#4 of 10128)

A great Novara blog on the media bigging up UKIP and other Stoke stuff.

Natascha - 23 Jan 2017 15:35:47 (#5 of 10128)

Something Cooperian.

Well, now. Well, well, well.

xDiggy - 23 Jan 2017 15:36:46 (#6 of 10128)

He may be the worst party leader ever, but nobody can fault his ability to spark discussion on JTT.

Lawlsie - 23 Jan 2017 15:37:55 (#7 of 10128)

His strong pro Brexit stance may help us hugely in Stoke.


mikeshadow - 23 Jan 2017 15:38:40 (#8 of 10128)


It's discussion Jim, but not as we know it.

ThreeFlewOver - 23 Jan 2017 15:38:40 (#9 of 10128)

#3 - I would love to read that, but FUCKING INDEPENDENT WEBSITE!


Lawlsie - 23 Jan 2017 15:40:12 (#10 of 10128)

Don't get me started on the Indie. The Mirror's is utter shit too.

lusmeri1 - 23 Jan 2017 15:40:40 (#11 of 10128)

Yvette Cooper says MPs who vote against triggering Article 50 will be behaving like Donald Trump, 3FO. Better not send her canvassing in Stoke, eh?

GreenFuture - 23 Jan 2017 15:41:17 (#12 of 10128)

Lawls...if you have time, check out the vid in 4.

I don't think Corbyn is that pro brexitand I think it's more a case of not being much against it that won't hurt in stoke if you see what I mean.

SirHenryPercy - 23 Jan 2017 15:42:28 (#13 of 10128)

Shit thread title.

ThreeFlewOver - 23 Jan 2017 15:43:13 (#14 of 10128)

Thanks, lus.

Lawlsie - 23 Jan 2017 15:44:24 (#15 of 10128)

Bastani says Hunt is of aristocratic blood in that vid Greenie, #4.

Alternative facts are unacceptable whoever is peddling them.

Natascha - 23 Jan 2017 15:50:55 (#16 of 10128)

Still not bothered by your opinion, Percy.

breakfast - 23 Jan 2017 16:03:02 (#17 of 10128)

Cooper and Burnham, with their Brexity constituencies, have both been angsting about immigration for years. Cooper's pro EU stance in the referendum was that we should stay in but keep arguing for curbs on free movement. As mentioned in the Independent article, which I linked to days ago, she believes MPs must vote favour of triggering A50.

Burnham has come out very strongly and said immigration must be the top priority (that's part of his mayoral pitch).

A lot of Labour MPs with Leave constituencies, of which there are many, think the same way.

Diane Abbott want's to remain a member of the single market.

It's a tricky circle to square and although I think there are probably a couple of better potential leaders in the PLP than Corbyn it would still be a nightmare. No one's got an answer to it. Starmer is trying but he really wouldn't be satisfying strong Remainers either.

mememe - 23 Jan 2017 16:04:25 (#18 of 10128)

Truly it is Labour's Kobayashi Maru.

Oh, by the way: you can ban me if you want, but since I've been proved right about Corbyn and nobody really gives a fuck about Labour any more, you don't have to worry.

GreenFuture - 23 Jan 2017 16:07:35 (#19 of 10128)

Lawls, don't want to get bogged down in this too much, but a quick search for "tristram hunt aristocrat" shows, in top link from Telegraph cites he is "...himself the scion of an aristocratic lineage"

Who is and isn't an "aristo" can be a pretty grey area. I am still technically married to one LOL (Irish, thus not much recognised)

Grey areas offer much scope for those making the case for black or white accusing one another of "faking"

So many things are indeterminate.

lapsedcat - 23 Jan 2017 16:08:14 (#20 of 10128)

I don't understand. What's wrong with having aristo roots?

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