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Started by GreenFuture on 09-Aug-2017 18:23:48
A Hopefully Hypothetical Question..

If it all gets a bit nukey between the US and North Korea, how do you think people in the UK will react?

I suspect the historical levels of trauma could cause the shit to hit the fan in a myriad of ways. If we don't kick off against mad rulers and authoritarianism at a time like that, when would we?

On a more survivalist level, are you all prepped up with dried food, water filters and the like? When I was less mentally stable, I used to hoard pilfered condiment sachets from Wetherspoons and such places. I had tubs full of them because I thought they'd be good for barter if the balloon went up. Perhaps if The Snowflake King and his Korean partner in authoritarian lunacy get their way, I shall come to regret moving on from that arena of the unwell.

phantlers - 09 Aug 2017 18:29:39 (#1 of 120)

Corbyn would come in for a sustained attack from multiple sides for being a lentil munching surrender monkey.

GreenFuture - 09 Aug 2017 18:32:54 (#2 of 120)

To be fair, it will probably be his fault.

Dementor - 09 Aug 2017 18:35:07 (#3 of 120)

There's loads of prepper stuff on YouTube - and a fair bit of it is rugged libertarian rather than batshite conspiracy enthusiast.

cozzer - 09 Aug 2017 18:38:25 (#4 of 120)

I can't see it having any direct effect on the UK (in terms of people here needing to stockpile food or anything). I guess it depends a bit on which way China jumps, but even then it's clear that it's not our argument, so it seems a stretch that they'd nuke us. There's absolutely no danger that NK can nuke us (I don't think they'll be able to hit Guam, for that matter. Seoul is a bit vulnerable, but again, that's a long way from here).

Snarlygog - 09 Aug 2017 18:40:34 (#5 of 120)

It depends if they deploy the Foreign sec to defuse and sooth tensions.

solomongursky - 09 Aug 2017 18:40:49 (#6 of 120)

Returning to a barter economy based on Wetherspoons condiment sachets?

GreenFuture - 09 Aug 2017 18:46:59 (#7 of 120)

I'd like to think that several thousand ketchups and horse-raddish could even stretch to a small solar panel.

GreenFuture - 09 Aug 2017 18:49:53 (#8 of 120)

cozzer -

while I agree that there may not be the worst for the UK in the immediacy, the immense traumatic emotional impact of nukes getting used could (and perhaps should) cause a good deal of social chaos. I think there's a chance of a genuine mass existential crisis from it.

In any case, any nuke = radiation and a very severe impact on the global productive economy. An economic crash would be a high probability.

cozzer - 09 Aug 2017 18:52:49 (#9 of 120)

In any case, any nuke = radiation

On the other side of the world.

cozzer - 09 Aug 2017 18:55:31 (#10 of 120)

And in any case, I would imagine China wouldn't be too happy to have a radioactive wasteland on its borders, plus attendant refugee crisis, so is likely to warn off Trump in no uncertain terms. And while he may be happy to bomb NK who can't fight back, he surely isn't stupid enough to risk a nuclear war with China.

JohnIlly - 09 Aug 2017 18:58:00 (#11 of 120)

The US has enough non-nuclear stuff to wipe out large areas of NK.

moto748 - 09 Aug 2017 18:59:12 (#12 of 120)

What is it they say? There are no nuclear warheads in existence as small as the Hiroshima bomb? The smallest ones now are 10x that size? Or is it 100x?

Dementor - 09 Aug 2017 18:59:29 (#13 of 120)

Tactical nukes against massed artillery or troops, I wondered?

moto748 - 09 Aug 2017 19:00:03 (#14 of 120)

"Tactical" be bollixed!

bossab2 - 09 Aug 2017 19:00:05 (#15 of 120)

The wind blows from the west normally.

When Chernobyl' went bang it irradiated sheep in North Wales.

FestinaLente - 09 Aug 2017 19:02:11 (#16 of 120)

The fallout will get everyone eventually. Read "On the Beach". It's almost a blueprint.

solomongursky - 09 Aug 2017 19:04:25 (#17 of 120)

Or The Satan Bug. Last person to die will be an eskimo or isolated tribesman long after I've sold my last packet of tartare sauce, not euph.

ChankNolen - 09 Aug 2017 19:05:51 (#18 of 120)

The temptation will be to try and take out NK's capabilities through a (conventional) pre-emptive air assault. And hope it is successful.

What none of us can know is what advice Trump is receiving on the feasibility of such an approach.

solomongursky - 09 Aug 2017 19:06:12 (#19 of 120)

Hreatbreaking hand-written notices plaster the lamp posts pleading for salad cream.

cozzer - 09 Aug 2017 19:06:51 (#20 of 120)

The fallout will get everyone eventually. Read "On the Beach". It's almost a blueprint.

It won't though, will it. for a start, On the Beach is a work of fiction, and was written 60 years ago (so our understanding of atmospheric dynamics etc has improved since then). but also, there have been 520 atmospheric nuclear explosions. We're all still alive. Unless Trump dumps the whole US arsenal on NK, which seems unlikely, a few nuclear explosions on the other side of the world isn't likely to have any direct effect on us.

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