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Started by Agaliarept on 12-Oct-2017 08:19:30
Sally Jones 'killed by US drone strike in Syria'

The so-called British "White Widow" Sally Jones had reportedly been killed by a US drone strike in Syria.

US spy chiefs are said to have told their counterparts at MI6 that the Islamist militant, who left Kent to join Isis in 2013, was killed close to the border between Syria and Iraq in June.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-drone-strike-sally-jones-killed-white-widow-us-syria-raqqa-a7995801.html

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Agaliarept - 12 Oct 2017 08:21:44 (#1 of 164)

The 'White Widow' has been killed.

That puts an end to one of the tabloids favourite story lines.

TommyDGNR8 - 12 Oct 2017 08:23:00 (#2 of 164)

Aw. I loved her on Tiswas.

machiavelli - 12 Oct 2017 08:26:19 (#3 of 164)

I thought Samantha Lewthwaite was the white widow? I can't keep up.

ThreeFlewOver - 12 Oct 2017 08:28:38 (#4 of 164)

And her infant son, collateral damages fans.

nac1001 - 12 Oct 2017 08:31:40 (#5 of 164)

A Whitehall source told The Sun: “The Americans zapped her trying to get away from Raqqa. Quite frankly, it’s good riddance."

Civil servants didn't talk like that in the old days.

Agaliarept - 12 Oct 2017 08:33:59 (#6 of 164)

And her infant son, collateral damages fans.

Was that confirmed? The DM said there was no news about the boy.

I couldn't imagine what this must be like for him. I have a special reserve of hatred for those who willingly took children into that hell.

machiavelli - 12 Oct 2017 08:36:24 (#7 of 164)

But it is often impossible to verify the deaths of jihadis in drone strikes with many reappearing months after their deaths were reported to the media.

Never mind, at least we got one woman dressed in a jibjab, whoever she was.

ThreeFlewOver - 12 Oct 2017 08:39:26 (#8 of 164)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/12/thur
sday-briefing-isis-mother-and-son-die-in-syria-drone-strike


Guardian reporting son killed too, although 12 not infant. I was misled by the photo which was an old one.

Agaliarept - 12 Oct 2017 08:45:03 (#9 of 164)

although 12 not infant. I was misled by the photo which was an old one.

Yeah but still too young for all this. He was 9 when he was taken there.

Never mind, at least we got one woman dressed in a jibjab, whoever she was.

There's no guarantee it was even a woman.

Video: ISIS militants ‘caught dressing in WOMEN’S clothes attempt to flee Iraq’s battlefields’

http://theteenagersclothingandshoes.com/video-isis-militants-caught-dressing-in-womens-clothes-attempt-to-flee-iraqs-battlefields/

FleurDuMal - 12 Oct 2017 08:51:05 (#10 of 164)

I have a special reserve of hatred for those who willingly took children into that hell.

Me too.

Agaliarept - 12 Oct 2017 08:55:20 (#11 of 164)

I thought Samantha Lewthwaite was the white widow? I can't keep up.

Wiki has them both them both being called the white widow.

Pretty poor show from our press that they couldn't come up with two nicknames.

machiavelli - 12 Oct 2017 09:00:59 (#12 of 164)

There's no guarantee it was even a woman.

Shhhh! Don't spoil it.

machiavelli - 12 Oct 2017 09:01:23 (#13 of 164)

Pretty poor show from our press that they couldn't come up with two nicknames.

Yeah. They could have called one of them "The Sexy Salafist".

Bromio - 12 Oct 2017 09:02:49 (#14 of 164)

I have no idea what could have persuaded her to go to Syria and take her child with her. No idea about her mental state, her vulnerability (or otherwise) to manipulation and propaganda. I find I can't judge her without more information. The only thing I can say for certain is that it is another desperately sad family tragedy. I just hope their ending was swift.

Agaliarept - 12 Oct 2017 09:07:25 (#15 of 164)

No idea about her mental state, her vulnerability (or otherwise) to manipulation and propaganda.

Oh I think we know the generally together people with strong minds aren't ISIS usual recruitment fodder. She obviously had problems she felt would be solved by being with ISIS.

I find I can't judge her without more information. The only thing I can say for certain is that it is another desperately sad family tragedy. I just hope their ending was swift.

I can understand that position Bromio I just find that once you harm a kid, while I may understand you had a reason for what you did, all my sympathy is for the child now.

Of course according to reports she seemed pretty enthusiastic about ISIS while she was there.

FrankieTeardrop - 12 Oct 2017 09:20:10 (#16 of 164)

"No idea about her mental state, her vulnerability (or otherwise) to manipulation and propaganda."

Perhaps she was one of the people doing the manipulating, generating propaganda. ISIS can't be made up solely of people vulnerable to these things.

Bromio - 12 Oct 2017 09:48:27 (#17 of 164)

Perhaps she was. Perhaps Sally Jones was a monster. Perhaps her son would have grown up to be the leader of daesh. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

FrankieTeardrop - 12 Oct 2017 09:50:11 (#18 of 164)

There must be some monsters doing the manipulating, creating the propaganda.

FrankieTeardrop - 12 Oct 2017 09:51:10 (#19 of 164)

"Jones posted messages in support of Isis as well as extremist comments such as: “You Christians all need beheading with a nice blunt knife and stuck on the railings at Raqqa ... Come here I’ll do it for you.”"

That's a monstrous thing to write.

ChankNolen - 12 Oct 2017 09:51:28 (#20 of 164)

#2 Damn, I came here to make that joke.

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