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Started by Pixiedust on 02-Nov-2017 22:10:52
Brexit Stage Left

Continuation of the "Countdown to Brextacy" thread.

Carry on.

Now continued at

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MsCharDonnay - 02 Nov 2017 22:16:43 (#1 of 9975)

what could go wrong

indlovubill - 02 Nov 2017 22:18:18 (#2 of 9975)

what could go wrong

This will be a copy and paste the last thread

Pixiedust - 02 Nov 2017 22:18:38 (#3 of 9975)

what could go wrong

The Maybot could suffer a catastrophic malfunction and we could see BoJo and JRM as the two most powerful people in British politics?

Electro2 - 02 Nov 2017 22:18:52 (#4 of 9975)

Pixiedust - 02 Nov 2017 22:19:47 (#5 of 9975)

I am stealing that and raising it as my own.

bossab2 - 02 Nov 2017 22:19:50 (#6 of 9975)

Shouldn't this be discussed in parliament once we get to 10,000 ?

bossab2 - 02 Nov 2017 22:20:58 (#7 of 9975)

Anyway Sod Brexit, Teresa's been flogging arms to the Israelis today.

ChankNolen - 02 Nov 2017 22:26:54 (#8 of 9975)

Just tried to respond to this on the locked thread:

'Interesting that the focus is now on the auld enemy - the dastardly Hun. You, Chank and the Telegraph are now vomiting out this line.'

The reference to the auld enemy confused me for a moment, I don't think we can pin this on the Scots.

As for Germany, I bear them no ill-will whatsoever. They are pursuing their national interest as they see it: 'maintaining the integrity of the Single Market' (something I think they sincerely believe) but more pertinently for our current impasse, minimising their own financial exposure to any shortfall in the budget caused by Brexit.

As I said some days ago, we will eventually have to capitulate on this and agree a number in the middle of the range of estimates discussed - circa £30bn, with possible add-ons if we do end up participating in some EU programmatic activity beyond Brexit. I think it is pretty clear that this is what May signalled at the private summit dinner.

From a UK perspective though, that is bound to be a conditional offer: we cough the money up only if certain conditions are met on other elements of the dossier. As a matter of practical reality, the EU can't actually send the bailiffs round to collect the money, so - assuming that the eventual agreement is to a form of staged payment - it ought not be to that difficult to extract some concessions on future trading arrangements as a quid pro quo.

GreenFuture - 02 Nov 2017 22:28:52 (#9 of 9975)

Hello new thread. I misread and thought it might be a Lexit thread. Ho hum. They won't be getting their way too soon...although who knows... this government might collapse at some point. The sooner the better for non headbangers to take over (I mean they're not headbangers on the EU...obviously their leftyisms aren't to everyones taste)

xbod72 - 02 Nov 2017 22:52:34 (#10 of 9975)

Evidence that the impact assessments don't exist?

inandout - 02 Nov 2017 23:04:32 (#11 of 9975)

No confidence vote before Christmas or after?

Pixiedust - 02 Nov 2017 23:32:26 (#12 of 9975)

I think the Tories are so terrified of losing power that they will keep Nanny Meh as a figurehead for as long as possible.

GreenFuture - 03 Nov 2017 01:56:24 (#13 of 9975)

Yes Pixie. It's in the DNA. They will dismantle public assets and parcel them off to friends and donors as long as absolutely possible.

They're also way behind on fracking and other ruinous shit that people need to profit off.

Likewise, the push to increase misery and destitution among the undeserving poor is a theological imperative.

The interests of the country and good government would never interfere with such dynamics.

Andyourpointis - 03 Nov 2017 07:50:23 (#14 of 9975)

Does he really believe this? Or is it just a good angle to promote a new book?

AlanII - 03 Nov 2017 08:37:16 (#15 of 9975)

Only he can say really. Not very important in the grand scheme of things though. Apart from anything else, it's far to early to say what the "right side of history" means at this point. Still it's the kind of meaningless soundbite that will send some Brexiters into orgasm so...

OneOfOne - 03 Nov 2017 08:42:18 (#16 of 9975)

when all the project fear warnings (EU Army, 90 million turks moving into your street, dusky looking rapists on every corner eyeing up your children) don't come to pass, we can be assured that brexit saved us from those horrors and was therefore worth it

1OffManMental - 03 Nov 2017 08:47:47 (#17 of 9975)

Empty meaningless slogans, I though better of Peston.

TheExcession - 03 Nov 2017 08:49:14 (#18 of 9975)

#16 You can laugh, but I've been sticking this banana in my ear to protect me from alligators for years and it works like a charm.

1OffManMental - 03 Nov 2017 08:49:23 (#19 of 9975)

At least some politicians are willing to say the obvious. The bullshit promoted by the liars in the leave campaign are undeliverable:

Pity the politician is Irish

Dayraven - 03 Nov 2017 09:10:24 (#20 of 9975)

I've been sticking this banana in my ear to protect me from alligators for years and it works like a charm.

Except during that trip to Florida, but that was an anomaly.

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