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Started by MsCharDonnay on Dec 8, 2017 6:40:58 PM
All I Want for Christmas is EU (Or, Failing That, BINO)

Is it time for a new thread now that it looks like some sensible civil servants have taken over and put us on the road where soft brexit is on the cards?

Will May realise what she's agreed to before it's too late? Will Rees-Mogg, Johnson, Davis or Leadsom attempt a coup?

Is it too early to stop stockpiling tinned food?

The next few months are going to be interesting.

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AlanII - 08 Dec 2017 18:44:16 (#1 of 10042)

Stretches.

MsCharDonnay - 08 Dec 2017 18:45:22 (#2 of 10042)

It's a half serious question about the tinned food.

AlanII - 08 Dec 2017 18:47:50 (#3 of 10042)

For now, you're ok.

xbod72 - 08 Dec 2017 18:48:13 (#4 of 10042)

I admire your rapidity of action, Chardonnay.

Andyourpointis - 08 Dec 2017 18:49:54 (#5 of 10042)

May was more of a Remainer all along:

For all the 'no deal is better than a bad deal' politics, privately May never believed no deal was much of a viable option at all, reports @ShippersUnbound in his new book. EU27 never really believed it either.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sundersays/status/93907
6488749617152/photo/1

MsCharDonnay - 08 Dec 2017 18:50:11 (#6 of 10042)

With stockpiling the tinned food? We've had over a year since the referendum.

Policywatcher - 08 Dec 2017 18:51:21 (#7 of 10042)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/08/n
ot-much-remain-theresa-may-red-lines-brexit-deal


Not much remains of Theresa May's red lines after the Brexit deal

Promises made after the referendum have now collided with the legal and economic consequences of leaving the EU

It states clearly: “In the absence of agreed solutions, the United Kingdom will maintain full alignment with those rules of the internal market and the customs union.” In other words, the UK may not be a member of the single market, or have any direct ability to shape its rules in future, but it could yet have to play by them in perpetuity

MsCharDonnay - 08 Dec 2017 18:51:34 (#8 of 10042)

May was more of a Remainer all along:

For all the 'no deal is better than a bad deal' politics, privately May never believed no deal was much of a viable option at all, reports @ShippersUnbound in his new book. EU27 never really believed it either.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sundersays/status/93907
6488749617152/photo/1


It will be interesting to see how this affects her leadership ratings.

MsCharDonnay - 08 Dec 2017 18:52:43 (#9 of 10042)

Promises made after the referendum have now collided with the legal and economic consequences of leaving the EU

Reality has always been the biggest opponent to brexit

robbie76 - 08 Dec 2017 18:53:15 (#10 of 10042)

May never believed no deal was much of a viable option at all,

So she put David Davis in charge of negotiations to ensure everything went her way.

MsCharDonnay - 08 Dec 2017 18:55:40 (#11 of 10042)

I became slightly optimistic when May agreed to the first deal, that the DUP ruined, and then appeared to be panicking over the lack of a deal. It demonstrated that all her "no deal is better than [the shit deal we've got instead of membership]" mantra was not too deeply ingrained.

But now that she has shown herself to be half-way sane, will she survive as leader of BluKip?

AlanII - 08 Dec 2017 18:56:37 (#12 of 10042)

Remoans to be seen.

Policywatcher - 08 Dec 2017 18:56:42 (#13 of 10042)

I won't move to optimism just yet...

We're taking about politicians here.

AlanII - 08 Dec 2017 18:57:15 (#14 of 10042)

Exactly PR. Nothing written in stone yet.

BBBilly - 08 Dec 2017 19:00:50 (#15 of 10042)

There are people choking on their own froth in the Mail comments section. It's not a pretty sight.

Electro2 - 08 Dec 2017 19:03:41 (#16 of 10042)

Well that's made my xmas.

MsCharDonnay - 08 Dec 2017 19:05:47 (#17 of 10042)

I must admit to having a quick look on the leave.eu facebook page.

People not happy.

Invest heavily in shares in white patio furniture.

frantastic - 08 Dec 2017 19:07:18 (#18 of 10042)

Did I kill the other thread with, "Brexit, from Laboratoire Barnier......because she's worth it."?

WibbleAgain - 08 Dec 2017 19:09:16 (#19 of 10042)

Why does patio furniture for chucking has to be white? Would any other colour impede the chucking?

Andyourpointis - 08 Dec 2017 19:10:34 (#20 of 10042)

You don't wanna be chucking green plastic furniture around Wibble, that's the classy stuff..........

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