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Started by Sunfish on Jan 24, 2018 12:26:59 AM
SHOCK as Cathy Newman gets GOOSED again

Cathy ‘News Woman’ Newman interviews Canadian writer and clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson and comes unstuck when he resists her combative approach.

“I loved watching her get put back in her place, which is no more than fourth after Jon Snow, Matt Frei and Krishnan Guru-Murphy” crowed triumphal alt-right supporter Victor Wrongmo, while one-legged yoghurt-knitter Bella Cis-Oxbridge sniffed: “I can’t stand Jordan Peterson. He’s even worse than neo-fascist mansplainer Milo Yianniwotsit”.

Cathy Newman vs Jordan Peterson: talk about it here.

https://youtu.be/aMcjxSThD54

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springplease - 24 Jan 2018 01:44:24 (#1 of 1006)

So here's a great profile of JP

https://www.chronicle.com/article/What-s-So-Dangerous-About/242256

thismorning - 24 Jan 2018 03:01:22 (#2 of 1006)

oh dear watched this a few days ago, Cathy reminds me of the definition of absurd by Samuel Johnson.

When someone tries to imitate something that they will never resemble.

JP's lecture on Marxism and Neo Modernism also not likely to get him nominated for a Nobel. oh well. Intellectual idiots like oh dear Iv'e already forgotten her name....seem to recall a blond white woman with clenched fists thoughbut..

machiavelli - 24 Jan 2018 05:34:31 (#3 of 1006)

Matthew d'Ancona:

Do watch the whole thing. It is absolutely not the one-sided rout of Newman that the far right alleges. On equal pay, I thought she had the psychologist on the ropes more than once. On the right to offend, Peterson was on stronger ground.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan
/21/banning-jordan-peterson-causing-offence-cathy-newman-free-speech


I've not seen it but I'll take his word for it. I can imagine that it's on YouTube tagged with titles like "SJW presenter destroyed". And of course, the usual type of fucking moron is bravely making anonymois threats to and hurling abuse at Newman.

Moschops - 24 Jan 2018 06:43:12 (#4 of 1006)

Thanks for that, was interesting.

darkhorse - 24 Jan 2018 06:56:30 (#5 of 1006)

I only managed ten minutes of Mr Frowny. For some reason, this character came to mind:

http://viz.co.uk/2017/12/19/victorian-dad-nature-ramble/

thismorning - 24 Jan 2018 07:50:42 (#6 of 1006)

Mr Frowny iz a light weight true, and his groveling before politically correct absurdities would disgust Dr. Johnson, but, if I may, all that he needed to demonstrate, and he did that much despite tactics of retreat and compromise,is that Ms Barking iz a no weight. Can't blame him, as a shrink he knows where the left sends those insane enough to disagree with them.

HouseOfLametta - 24 Jan 2018 07:57:00 (#7 of 1006)

He was rubbish, wasn’t he? Stumbling over his anecdata and common sense, just haltingly downloading a load of whatireckons, I’m not surprised she didn’t have much to say.

It’s not even a good David Byrne impression.

Moschops - 24 Jan 2018 07:58:07 (#8 of 1006)

I thought he made some decent points myself

HouseOfLametta - 24 Jan 2018 07:59:39 (#9 of 1006)

I didn’t stick with it, I’ll confess, but that’s sort of the point.

StephanieSuperpowers - 24 Jan 2018 08:00:38 (#10 of 1006)

Multiple causes for that. Multifaceted reasons.

He is kind of like skeletor going to an estate agent's leadership conference, so I hope to see a lot more of him.

SharkPatoo - 24 Jan 2018 08:03:03 (#11 of 1006)

Who is this chap, did I miss a memo?

RosyLovelady - 24 Jan 2018 08:04:04 (#12 of 1006)

It was reported in The Guardian, on an inside page, near the bottom, so to speak.

SharkPatoo - 24 Jan 2018 08:05:17 (#13 of 1006)

I saw 20 secs but was reminded of Steve Martin ‘wear a tie Marlowe, don’t do that stupid top button thing’.

nac1001 - 24 Jan 2018 08:05:49 (#14 of 1006)

I watched the first couple of minutes when it was first shown but had to turn off as it was painful. It seemed to one of the many many C4News interviews where the presenter thinks they are just going to be shooting fish in a barrel (and get wildly praised on twitter for doing so) only to find the target knows his stuff. However having read some of the post match analysis I will go back and watch the whole thing.

darkhorse - 24 Jan 2018 08:05:55 (#15 of 1006)

There was a review of his self-help tome in the Guardian this weekend (I'd never heard of him before then either).

So I suppose he's doing a promotional tour of outraged liberal journos to boost sales.

CrossBingby - 24 Jan 2018 08:07:24 (#16 of 1006)

"He was rubbish, wasn’t he? Stumbling over his anecdata and common sense, just haltingly downloading a load of whatireckons."

You must have seen a different interview. Newman was awful, she seems to have decided prior to the interview that Peterson was some kind of 'alt-right' troll, when in fact he's a classic liberal.

She didn't listen to him at all and instead, constantly attempted to misrepresent him by prefixing every question with "so what you're saying is....", and then something that he never actually said. It was like watching a sulky teenager arguing with an adult.

darkhorse - 24 Jan 2018 08:08:17 (#17 of 1006)

one of the many many C4News interviews where the presenter thinks they are just going to be shooting fish in a barrel only to find the target knows his stuff.

Unlike most politicians (the usual interview staple), this guy did have a certain advantage in that he seemed the sort who doesn't care if you think he's a prick. Possibly he enjoys actively encouraging it. No wonder he teaches self-confidence.

HouseOfLametta - 24 Jan 2018 08:09:10 (#18 of 1006)

I wasn’t, I confess, listening to her. I was listening to him.

That probably proves something.

Moschops - 24 Jan 2018 08:09:51 (#19 of 1006)

Newman was awful, she seems to have decided prior to the interview that Peterson was some kind of 'alt-right' troll, when in fact he's a classic liberal.

I thought it started like that, but she did OK on certain points (his argument in favour of wage inequality, and naturally heirarchical societies (because lobsters) were pretty poor), but on other points you could tell he'd thought a lot more about it than she had.

HouseOfLametta - 24 Jan 2018 08:10:24 (#20 of 1006)

Fancy that.

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