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Started by xbod72 on Apr 14, 2018 1:34:52 AM
US, UK and France launch airstrikes on Syria.

This became public, I think, post 1am here in the UK while most of you were likely in bed.

HerpDerp - 14 Apr 2018 02:35:56 (#1 of 681)

Welp, this is just great.

xbod72 - 14 Apr 2018 01:41:33 (#2 of 681)

A BBC correspondent (or perhaps guest, rather than actual employee) defends the lack of Parliamentary debate on there "not being enough time".

"We should have had a Parliamentary debate on the state killing of anyone that owns a Citreon 2CV before killing them because a lot of people don't agree with it."


"What do you mean?"

"We decided we'd do it on Tuesday and that it had to be done on Tuesday and it was already a quarter to midnight on Tuesday, obv."


brooklyn - 14 Apr 2018 01:43:31 (#3 of 681)

hmm. a thought. the longer you wait, the more time the other guys have.

just a thought.

TinyMcOtter - 14 Apr 2018 01:44:44 (#4 of 681)

Fascinating listening to the BBC talking in a strident faux WW2 BBC English accent about Trump 'considering', 'deciding', and 'making the decision that Syria had gone too far' and so on.

Does anything think that Trump calmly considered and decided anything? Listening to his speech just now, it was the most stilted reading of a script I have heard for a while. Especially his attempt to pronounce Assad's full name.

brooklyn - 14 Apr 2018 01:47:33 (#5 of 681)

well. when you speak extemporaneously, these things happen.

what's that you say?

xbod72 - 14 Apr 2018 01:49:21 (#6 of 681)

the longer you wait, the more time the other guys have.

Syria have had aeons to produce contingency plans for Western intervention. Most military assets are mobile. I would imagine any kind of forewarning of beyond 24 hours would be enough for Syria to carry out their contingency. For those things Syria can do nothing about... well, they can't do anything about it!

TinyMcOtter - 14 Apr 2018 01:50:49 (#7 of 681)

Anyway, what are they actually bombing? Do they know where the chemical weapons are? Especially now that Assad has had time to move them all.

Also, they need to be careful not to knock out too much of his infrastructure, otherwise ISIS, or other fundamentalists, will gain the upper hand again. Then they'd have to bomb Syria again. Just like last time, when they bombed a few ISIS members on motorbikes.

All these bombing raids don't appear to be having much effect. You don't suppose that Trump, May and Macron have got some kinds of domestic issues that they are trying to divert attention from, do you?

HerpDerp - 14 Apr 2018 02:52:33 (#8 of 681)

You don't really hear much from Theresa May these days...I'd kind of forgotten all about her

xbod72 - 14 Apr 2018 01:52:54 (#9 of 681)

The "not enough time" guy on the BBC says chemical weapons facilities are prime targets, Tiny.

brooklyn - 14 Apr 2018 01:54:19 (#10 of 681)

aeons? I can't believe that you guys continue to sacrifice all these vowels so unnecessarily. I mean, you drop the bombs, but you just can't perfect the spelling.

which is to say, I doubt that long-term waiting would have been good militarily, or politically.

xbod72 - 14 Apr 2018 01:56:06 (#11 of 681)

But the prospect of Western intervention was already a long-term risk from the Syrian perspective. That's my point.

xbod72 - 14 Apr 2018 01:57:23 (#12 of 681)


brooklyn - 14 Apr 2018 01:58:39 (#13 of 681)

<<That's my point.>>

and not an unreasonable one, to be sure. but still, "while the iron is hot" is still a fair view. including, as noted, the moving of potential targets.

HerpDerp - 14 Apr 2018 02:58:58 (#14 of 681)

I had to wait an aeon for assistance!

brooklyn - 14 Apr 2018 01:59:48 (#15 of 681)

it would have come faster, in a mere eon.

mikeshadow - 14 Apr 2018 02:00:52 (#16 of 681)

Will the Russians retaliate on Assad’s behalf?

Hopefully the Russians won’t retaliate in spite of their threats and warnings earlier this week. Unless their own military are attacked.

xbod72 - 14 Apr 2018 02:03:43 (#17 of 681)

I had to wait an aeon for assistance!

HerpDerp you terrible cunt!

(It's OK everyone, me and Herp are merely referencing a film. Don't worry.)

TinyMcOtter - 14 Apr 2018 02:06:15 (#18 of 681)

The "not enough time" guy on the BBC says chemical weapons facilities are prime targets, Tiny.

I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did.

TinyMcOtter - 14 Apr 2018 02:07:08 (#19 of 681)

The UK’s Ministry of Defence has given details of its involvement in tonight’s strikes.

It says four RAF Tornados flew from Cyprus and fired Storm Shadow missiles at a former missile base in Syria, near Homs, where the Syrian government was believed to have kept chemical weapon precursors.

So, 'former' and 'was believed to have kept'...?

I see.

xbod72 - 14 Apr 2018 02:07:28 (#20 of 681)

Pentagon asked if there will be ongoing action or whether this is a one-off bout of strikes.

Pentagon says it depends on Assad's following actions.

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