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Started by col2001 on Aug 8, 2018 8:19:16 AM
The Many Faults Of Corbyn

A safe space for 'Corbyn cult-members' - nobody else, thanks! - to lament Corbyn's manifold failings.

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col2001 - 08 Aug 2018 08:19:46 (#1 of 1591)

Genuine stuff required. No irony,. clunking sarcasm.

thisonehasalittlehat - 08 Aug 2018 08:21:22 (#2 of 1591)

Well he's shit isn't he.

col2001 - 08 Aug 2018 08:24:00 (#3 of 1591)

Passivity.

Yes, he campaigns well but from time to time he needs to make the kind of grand-vision speech which cannot be ignored.

The issue is important but so is the look.

One thought is this: corruption. Assault the dodgy connections in the Tories. Slide into Brexit funding. Other the anti-democratic fuckers. Go big on LIES.

Just fucking go for it. What's to lose?

HouseOfLametta - 08 Aug 2018 08:24:33 (#4 of 1591)

Consorting with elves.

BuddhaPest - 08 Aug 2018 08:25:05 (#5 of 1591)

He consults Yvette Cooper?

machiavelli - 08 Aug 2018 08:26:09 (#6 of 1591)

I thought getting Chakrabarti elevated after she delivered her report a grave error. It looked like quid pro quo.

Hilary - 08 Aug 2018 08:27:00 (#7 of 1591)

Particularly since he then buried it.

clammy - 08 Aug 2018 08:27:22 (#8 of 1591)

Corbyn wants to curb our press.

SheikYerbouti - 08 Aug 2018 08:31:52 (#9 of 1591)

Quality thread policing, here.

col2001 - 08 Aug 2018 08:32:41 (#10 of 1591)

I really hesitate on this one but...

He needs to confront something or a group. Kinnock, Blair both had moments of apparent strength of purpose.

Yes, the press applauded because they were both anti-left things. But I reckon many voters si!ply liked the strongman thing. Collegiate leadership? Nah...

He needs to do something dramatic. (Would be nice if it could be Brexit but the timing, the risks...)

machiavelli - 08 Aug 2018 08:36:17 (#11 of 1591)

Quality thread policing, here.

Th-read po-lice, arrest this man, he posts in jargon

He argues in ad homs

He's like a poundshop Littlejohn

That's what you get, when you FFS...

Agaliarept - 08 Aug 2018 08:43:41 (#12 of 1591)

I’m so on the fence with labour.

I think the country needs a bit of socialism just to balance the last few years out but every time I think about backing them I feel like Jez skates a bit close to the line.

He doesn’t have the presence of Blair or even Brown, comes across very jaded like he shouldn’t be having to deal with all of this (he shouldn’t but it’s the game).

I worry that he doesn’t do enough to appeal to people outside of his core support.

LemonGrass - 08 Aug 2018 08:45:17 (#13 of 1591)

That last sentence sums it up.

TinyMcOtter - 08 Aug 2018 08:45:33 (#14 of 1591)

He could do a barnstorming NHS and care for the elderly speech/broadcast. Something hugely emotive, with background images, quoting deaths as a result of welfare cuts and the upcoming PENSIONS CRISIS!. Calling it the the biggest crisis affecting the UK over the next decade and acusing the government of complicity.

It would be followed up with a couple of loud mouthy backbenchers making controversial statements such as the Tories are guilty of gross negligence and governmental manslaughter and so on.

Corbyn could them dial it back by saying that they went too far, but obviously ‘many people are angry and worries’ etc.

invicta - 08 Aug 2018 08:47:29 (#15 of 1591)

Resulting headline : Corbyn to raise taxes.

TinyMcOtter - 08 Aug 2018 08:48:50 (#16 of 1591)

Basically, there are not enough narrative changing interventions.

Of course some right wing cunt will try to sabotage it all, by acausing him of beastiality or something.

Ginmonkey - 08 Aug 2018 08:50:26 (#17 of 1591)

I would love a Labour government to tackle the health and social care crisis prompted by an ageing population.

However i think it is one of those issues that needs calm cross party consensus rather than finger pointing about evil murdering tories or rabid socialists out to steal your granny's house.

Agaliarept - 08 Aug 2018 08:50:44 (#18 of 1591)

Resulting headline : Corbyn to raise taxes.

Maybe he could do a trump and turn people away from the media.

It’s not like our media doesn’t warrant a dose of being ignored.

The fact he doesn’t attack back isn’t a plus for him.

invicta - 08 Aug 2018 08:55:52 (#19 of 1591)

I would like to see him making such an announcement and facing down the Corbyn Raises Taxes headlines without whining about the MSM or getting his chancellor to make flushed-face attacks on the Rich. Because if we want to maintain our current state services, taxes will have to rise. And if we want then to advance, not to be preserved, then they will have to rise further, and someone needs to crack the political silence. I thought that was Corbyn's USP?

machiavelli - 08 Aug 2018 08:58:23 (#20 of 1591)

That'd be my essential criticism of him - a bit too quiet.

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