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Started by uranrising on Nov 16, 2018 4:14:46 PM
UK politicians in denial over UK POVERTY

Ministers are in a "state of denial" about poverty, a UN expert has said following a 12-day tour of the UK...

A fifth of the population, amounting to 14m people, are living in poverty and levels of child poverty are "staggering", the Australian said.

The government rejected his analysis, pointing to rising household incomes.

Professor Alston, an expert in human rights law based at New York University, visited locations including Belfast, Bristol, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Essex, Glasgow, London and Newcastle on a fact-finding mission.

He met people affected by poverty as well as government officials, discussing the impact of austerity, changes to benefits and local government funding.

At a news conference in London, he said he witnessed "a lot of misery, a lot of people who feel the system is failing them, a lot of people who feel the system is really just there to punish them".

GreenFuture - 16 Nov 2018 16:32:20 (#1 of 412)

And journalists like the BBC are in denial that the whole nauseating business is deliberate.

FleurDuMal - 16 Nov 2018 16:33:56 (#2 of 412)

Yet another one to be laid at the door of the pig-fucking Old Etonian.

darkhorse - 16 Nov 2018 16:49:41 (#3 of 412)

It’s not news that MPs, particularly the Tory party, don’t give much of a toss about the poor.

In fact, they gleefully introduce punitive benefits regimes and pretend it’s for their own good.

HouseOfLametta - 16 Nov 2018 16:51:00 (#4 of 412)


TigerPaws - 16 Nov 2018 16:54:44 (#5 of 412)

I noticed how Claire Perry on Questiontime came over all restless when the union guy was talking about housing and health issues. Then a verbal ad hominem directed at Corbyn which was very ugly.

breakfast - 16 Nov 2018 16:56:03 (#6 of 412)

Unfortunate timing for this report. It's not going to get much media coverage.

CarlosFandango - 16 Nov 2018 17:03:10 (#7 of 412)

Claire Perry is a fucking disgrace, blethering on for hours while Bumblebore indulged her.

And did you notice the manipulative ickle girly bit where she pouted and said

'I wasn't interrupting, I was talking to you....'

I have to watch these things with nothing throwable within easy reach these days.

TrouserFreak - 16 Nov 2018 17:09:44 (#8 of 412)

These little opinion pieces are pretty meaningless when you look at the definition of poverty being used and the examples presented.

I was listening to a bit about this as I was coming home. Made me wonder why they don't use bigger exaggerations and lies, such as people having to become cannibals to survive.

WibbleAgain - 16 Nov 2018 17:23:48 (#9 of 412)

The UN disapproving? Foreigners conspiring against Great Britain, surely. LEAVE the UN is the obvious answer. Problem solved.

TrouserFreak - 16 Nov 2018 17:57:26 (#10 of 412)

It's not the UN though is it? It's one person from the UN pushing his agenda with vague comments.

bossab2 - 16 Nov 2018 17:59:40 (#11 of 412)

Earnings haven't yet up with inflation TF.

And that's while the capitalist bosses are raking it in.

mancurse - 16 Nov 2018 18:06:17 (#12 of 412)

I have emailed the 24-page summary to my Tory MP, and would suggest you all do the same to your own Tory MPs. Labour MPs too, why not.

It is shocking and shameful, and it is all the doing of this rotten-to-the-core Conservative party.

TigerPaws - 16 Nov 2018 18:10:09 (#13 of 412)

Amber Rudd is back as DWP secretary of state.

This is horrible for Windrush affected people.

Expect more poverty, benefits denied, more lies and lies and lies.

col2001 - 16 Nov 2018 18:54:37 (#14 of 412)

It's ok. Children In Need launched in 1980! And has collected almost £1billion!

So we're doing lots - and look at all the great stuff done by CIN!

Technical note: CIN. 1billion over 38 years. One penny on basic rate income tax and dividends is £6 billion. Every fucking year.

Catspyjamas17 - 16 Nov 2018 18:57:32 (#15 of 412)

True, but that would be going to the Treasury, and almost certainly not to the same areas of need. I take your point, though.

col2001 - 16 Nov 2018 18:59:53 (#16 of 412)

The same areas of need?

Yes. Democratically-decided areas of need. Imperfect, but better than non-democratically-allocated.

bossab2 - 16 Nov 2018 19:35:19 (#17 of 412)

I expect my Tory MP has an (unpaid) work experience minion whose job is to make tea and delete all emails.

thisonehasalittlehat - 16 Nov 2018 19:38:15 (#18 of 412)

Poverty isn't in denial silly. It's in de Humber. And de Clyde.

TinyMcOtter - 16 Nov 2018 22:36:06 (#19 of 412)

Aditya Chakrabortty

"Over the past few days, Britain has been exposed to the world as possessing an arrogant and incompetent ruling elite, Westminster as a palace of courtiers more focused on their own tacky careers than the country they are meant to be governing. But because Alston has seen what damage this vainglorious ruling class has done to the poorest, the picture he paints of our government takes on much deeper shades of condemnation. For almost half of Britain’s children to be trapped in poverty is, he writes, “not just a disgrace, but a social calamity and an economic disaster, all rolled into one”. If these are indeed the dying days of Theresa May’s government, then its epitaph has been written by a man from the UN."

emorobot - 17 Nov 2018 15:01:42 (#20 of 412)

The worst thing is that nobody really cares. The report will gather dust in some office somewhere, and everyone will go back to the usual.

Somewhere along the line, we lost our humanity. Was it the piggish general public, who voted for this shit three times in seven years? Or were they duped by the media, an institution that's so full of lies that its output is now indistinguishable from wartime enemy propaganda?

In no sense is Britain a functioning society anymore. All we seem to do is hurt each other, and all anyone can think of to do is hold on and wait for better times while we snipe at one another. It's not like anybody actually wants to help anyone, or even be helped. Everyone for themselves, that's the rule. Survival of the fittest.

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