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Started by TinyMcOtter on Nov 25, 2018 6:51:52 AM
At least 320,000 homeless people in Britain – a year-on-year increase of 13,000, a 4% rise

At least 320,000 people are homeless in Britain, according to research by the housing charity Shelter.

Shelter says its figures, which include rough sleepers and people in temporary accommodation, are likely to be an underestimate of the problem as they do not capture people who experience “hidden” homelessness, such as sofa-surfers, and others living insecurely in sheds or cars, for example.

TinyMcOtter - 25 Nov 2018 06:55:40 (#1 of 39)

Theresa May said: "If they are homeless, why don't they simply buy a house? This makes no sense, why are they doing this to themselves? We must get rid of these lazy nanny state ideas. It's the politics of envy and socialism, if we got people off the streets, they might vote for Corbyn".

clammy - 25 Nov 2018 09:36:11 (#2 of 39)

I don't think homeless people go on line Tiny, the rest could could care less?

TigerPaws - 25 Nov 2018 17:38:19 (#3 of 39)

Are they included in the ONS unemployment rate?

FleurDuMal - 25 Nov 2018 17:45:18 (#4 of 39)

Probably not, as they can’t claim benefits.

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TigerPaws - 25 Nov 2018 18:46:05 (#6 of 39)

#4 The homeless can claim benefits. The charity dealing with them can provide an address to the DWP.

'Without work'? Should be without wages, as opposed to income from rentals, crime, begging, etc.

DesEsseintes - 25 Nov 2018 22:45:50 (#7 of 39)

It's all been a terrible mistake, this world.

Pentecost - 25 Nov 2018 22:51:56 (#8 of 39)

people who experience “hidden” homelessness, such as sofa-surfers, and others living insecurely in sheds or cars,

A number of these - not all and not even guessing about majority or not - choose to be hidden because what they do not want is to be slotted into a system and then lose freedom. The back of the van with the dog can be an attractive place for some.

Was for me.

TinyMcOtter - 25 Nov 2018 22:59:26 (#9 of 39)

Sure. But the same can be said for many forms of homelessness. But it’s still homelessness. See also unemployment, alcoholism, working at home, eating curry.

My pount being, that these factors shouldn’t be excluded from the stats.

Pentecost - 25 Nov 2018 23:08:23 (#10 of 39)

Do travellers count as well?

TinyMcOtter - 25 Nov 2018 23:38:25 (#11 of 39)

Good question. In the official figures above? No idea.

Do you mean the 'hippy' travellers, or Romanis, Irish travellers? I'd argue that they need to be allowed space to park their homes and live their lives - in which case, they are not homeless. If they are being chased away wherever they go, then it's a problem.

Tripos - 26 Nov 2018 00:15:38 (#12 of 39)

<clutches peals>

TinyMcOtter - 26 Nov 2018 00:44:11 (#13 of 39)


GreenFuture - 26 Nov 2018 01:14:53 (#14 of 39)

Encouraging news for Social Darwinists, but still nowhere near their goals.

Shadrack22 - 26 Nov 2018 01:25:39 (#15 of 39)

What a strange thread. What is it attempting to achieve?

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Tripos - 26 Nov 2018 01:32:24 (#17 of 39)

Sorry wrong thread.

TinyMcOtter - 26 Nov 2018 03:39:17 (#18 of 39)

Strange shadrack? Homelessness?

Would you prefer the topic were about Tony Blair’s canonisation?

ChankNolen - 26 Nov 2018 18:33:00 (#19 of 39)

My guess, based on some of the people who wound up in adjacent hospital beds, is that quite a bit of this is accounted for by the turfing out of problem tenants from social housing.

TinyMcOtter - 26 Nov 2018 21:18:05 (#20 of 39)

Rising homelessness isn’t inevitable, it’s a political choice

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