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Started by KizzyK on Feb 25, 2019 7:50:09 PM
How does an ordinary citizen sue the police?

Or similar.

The Police Commission do the in-house stuff but how does an ordinary member of the public hold the police accountable if they are witness to a crime in police presence and the police there simply claim they’ve seen nothing and ‘have no evidence’?

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KizzyK - 25 Feb 2019 19:54:14 (#1 of 363)

Some of the policing I was witness to this Saturday was just ridiculous, when I questioned them about it they refused to speak on camera because apparently they’ve ‘seen what happens on social media and I would just twist their words’, off camera they just said they didn’t know the answers to my questions.

bossab2 - 25 Feb 2019 19:58:44 (#2 of 363)

You complain to the plod.

Who then wait a few months and claim that you have no case.

Then you appeal to IOPC

https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/

Who will take a few more months to tell you that you have no case.



If you actually want something to happen you get footage of the behaviour and try to get it screened on one of the major media channels.

State actors don't give a fuck about 'the law'**.

What they hate is bad PR.

(** Only rich people can afford to have anything to do with courts and barristers and all that stuff)

HarveyRabbit - 25 Feb 2019 20:05:18 (#3 of 363)

Who will take a few more months to tell you that you have no case.

At that point you could apply for a judicial review of the IOPC decision.

But the basis of the JR would have to be that the police action (or inaction) was unlawful, as opposed to just ridiculous.

widenation - 25 Feb 2019 20:08:12 (#4 of 363)

Talk to a solicitor, who will deal with the IOPC about a complaint. You may get an apology - and acceptance that they were at fault, and you take it from there.

bossab2 - 25 Feb 2019 20:17:14 (#5 of 363)

Talk to a solicitor

Who will charge you £250/hour + VAT

Do you have £10,000 + going spare to get 'justice'



'Law' in the UK is only for the rich people

TrouserFreak - 25 Feb 2019 20:18:32 (#6 of 363)

Is this to do with fox hunting & do you want to sue the police for not helping your protest?

bossab2 - 25 Feb 2019 20:21:03 (#7 of 363)

Bad PR is all the fuckers are bothered about.

If you want action from the authorities it needs to endanger the majority of your local (probably Tory) MP

widenation - 25 Feb 2019 20:40:02 (#8 of 363)

Who will charge you £250/hour + VAT

Many solicitors will give a free initial consultation on matters like these.

fenderstrat - 25 Feb 2019 20:42:44 (#9 of 363)

kiz - whatver you are doing, I bet it's a righteous endeavour, so power to your elbow.

Tadagee - 25 Feb 2019 20:42:46 (#10 of 363)

Many solicitors will give a free initial consultation on matters like these.

Indeed.

It should probably go without saying but whatever you do, do not pay any attention whatsoever to bossab 'advice'.

Rendered - 25 Feb 2019 20:50:20 (#11 of 363)

-10 points

Agaliarept - 25 Feb 2019 20:57:48 (#12 of 363)

Many solicitors will give a free initial consultation on matters like these.

Don’t any of those no win no fee bods do this kind of work?

tasselhoff - 25 Feb 2019 21:00:01 (#13 of 363)

I doubt it.

Tadagee - 25 Feb 2019 21:00:26 (#14 of 363)

I'd keep away from no win no fee types. Just my view but they tend to only take on cases they are pretty sure of success with, they agree settlement without effective challenge to get the fee with minimum work, and you can end up paying them the bulk of the awards.

Also tend towards personal injury rather than more complex police actions.

Agaliarept - 25 Feb 2019 21:03:21 (#15 of 363)

I'd keep away from no win no fee types. Just my view but they tend to only take on cases they are pretty sure of success with, they agree settlement without effective challenge to get the fee with minimum work, and you can end up paying them the bulk of the awards.

Fair point. Guess not then.

widenation - 25 Feb 2019 21:05:18 (#16 of 363)

This seems to be about Police ignoring an incident rather than instigating one, which is never going to be as clear cut.

brooklyn - 25 Feb 2019 21:13:30 (#17 of 363)

unless you are the victim of this crime, what are you seeking damages for?

KizzyK - 25 Feb 2019 21:25:42 (#18 of 363)

I’m not seeking damages in any way. I just want to know if there is a way of legally requiring polices officers to make a bloody effort to uphold the law when they are witnesses to a crime.

TrouserFreak - 25 Feb 2019 21:27:04 (#19 of 363)

I knew it! I don't think you can sue the police for butt hurt tbh.

KizzyK - 25 Feb 2019 21:28:08 (#20 of 363)

What are you on about TF? Stop being so tiresome.

Talk to a solicitor, who will deal with the IOPC about a complaint. You may get an apology - and acceptance that they were at fault, and you take it from there

This sounds like a possible path.

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