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Started by DesEsseintes on Mar 13, 2019 11:22:53 AM
What is it to you, Wales?

"They mention sheep, they mention leeks, Welsh cakes and the woman with the hat and the apron. And I feel Wales is much more than that. Not to disregard that. I think there's history that needs to be added on to that."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47538946

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mingmong - 13 Mar 2019 11:28:56 (#1 of 89)

The living Brythonic substate under our skins. The bardic quicksilver that animates what we think of (wrongly) as the English imagination

FrankieTeardrop - 13 Mar 2019 11:30:32 (#2 of 89)

"There's more to Wales than this"

thisonehasalittlehat - 13 Mar 2019 11:33:22 (#3 of 89)

It's a big fish with a blowhole what ate jonah.

FrankieTeardrop - 13 Mar 2019 11:34:53 (#4 of 89)

It isn't a fish, it's a dinosaur.

ChankNolen - 13 Mar 2019 11:35:34 (#5 of 89)

I tend to think of the castles: the ones built by the English to keep the rebellious Celts down.

I did find myself in a Welsh Assembly-organised event on Wales's international branding once where the preponderance of Welsh castles in the tourists board materials was objected to by the Welsh nationalists for precisely this reason.

browserbutton - 13 Mar 2019 11:37:44 (#6 of 89)

When driving in Wales always slow down for 'Henoed'.

Agaliarept - 13 Mar 2019 11:37:46 (#7 of 89)

It isn't a fish, it's a dinosaur.

It isn't a dinosaur it's an ex wolf.

Lawlsie - 13 Mar 2019 11:38:32 (#8 of 89)

What is it to you, Wales?

Portmeirion

FrankieTeardrop - 13 Mar 2019 11:40:21 (#9 of 89)

"I tend to think of the castles: the ones built by the English"

I'm only familiar by ones built by the French Plantagenets. Where are the English ones?

mingmong - 13 Mar 2019 11:40:44 (#10 of 89)

The multicultural character of South Wales, Glamorgan in particular, has deep roots. There were Syrian, African, Irish and Saxons living alongside the native British in the coastal cities of the Severn Sea in Roman times, as now.

FrankieTeardrop - 13 Mar 2019 11:40:54 (#11 of 89)

Tiger Bay!

ChankNolen - 13 Mar 2019 11:41:21 (#12 of 89)

'I'm only familiar by ones built by the French Plantagenets'

Yes, very good.

FrankieTeardrop - 13 Mar 2019 11:41:39 (#13 of 89)

You mean, "very accurate".

Tadagee - 13 Mar 2019 11:48:20 (#14 of 89)

Although i guess started by the Angevins?

Shadrack22 - 13 Mar 2019 11:54:46 (#15 of 89)

There is no present in Wales,

And no future;

There is only the past,

Brittle with relics,

Wind-bitten towers and castles

With sham ghosts;

Mouldering quarries and mines;

And an impotent people,

Sick with inbreeding,

Worrying the carcase of an old song.

mingmong - 13 Mar 2019 12:01:13 (#16 of 89)

R S Thomas was in a bad mood that day

Shadrack22 - 13 Mar 2019 12:03:58 (#17 of 89)

I was on holiday in Bishops Castle about five years ago and crossed over the border into Knighton. Sunday lunchtime coffee in a hotel bar as the rain lashed down. That was my inevexperience of Wales.

HorstVogel - 13 Mar 2019 12:06:00 (#18 of 89)

River Taff, Cardiff to Merthyr, wonderful place.



Best years of my life, so far at least.

ChankNolen - 13 Mar 2019 12:14:58 (#19 of 89)

'You mean, "very accurate".'

My big boy's book of Plantagenets suggests that Edward Longshanks identified as English and Henry IV and V spoke more English than French.

From a Welsh nationalist perspective, the distinction is anyway somewhat moot: the point is that the castles that pepper their tourist literature are the marks of subjugation by an alien invader.

rgtstoppedcounting - 13 Mar 2019 12:15:46 (#20 of 89)

Talgarth to Hay, on foot.

Via Lord Hereford's Knob, obv.

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