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Started by HarveyRabbit on Apr 4, 2019 6:30:37 PM
Crossrail - Too big to fail?

From being on time and on budget up to 4 months before it was due to open in Dec 2018, the completion date for the £15bn project is now advancing faster than a tunnel boring machine.

Management of the project has been slammed by the Public Accounts Committee, which says it's not even convinced that trains will be running in 2020.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cms
elect/cmpubacc/2004/2004.pdf


Thread to imagine alternative uses for some expensive tunnels under London

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Verdigris - 04 Apr 2019 18:33:37 (#1 of 51)

Too big to fail?



For London. Mustn't fail (whatever the cost to the rest of the country).

See also HS2.

HarveyRabbit - 04 Apr 2019 18:34:59 (#2 of 51)

whatever the cost to the rest of the country

Most of the additional cost will come from London taxpayers.

Policywatcher - 04 Apr 2019 18:35:21 (#3 of 51)

Yesterday was of course a good day to bury bad news....

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/chris-grayling-crossrail-delays-transport-london-elizabeth-line-heathrow-central-budget-a8851781.html

Verdigris - 04 Apr 2019 18:37:54 (#4 of 51)

Most of the additional cost will come from London taxpayers.



Can they spare a bit extra so that a sustainable solution to God's Wonderful Railway falling into the sea at Dawlish can be built?

HarveyRabbit - 04 Apr 2019 19:36:58 (#5 of 51)

£80m to build an upgraded sea wall at Dawlish would be small change for Londoners faced with funding the lion's share of an extra £2.8bn - and still counting - for Crossrail.

nemo75 - 04 Apr 2019 19:38:55 (#6 of 51)

That really is shocking. The running repairs must have cost way more than just doing it properly.

Snarlygog - 04 Apr 2019 19:41:27 (#7 of 51)

We need a bit more transport investment in the SW. Flybe has stopped flying from Exeter, Plymouth Airport is un der development for housing and the A38 expressway is regularly shut for accidents.

Catspyjamas17 - 04 Apr 2019 19:43:18 (#8 of 51)

Too almost finished to fail I think.

Chris Grayling - say no more.

nemo75 - 04 Apr 2019 19:45:48 (#9 of 51)

Plymouth airport shut ages ago, didn’t it?

Verdigris - 04 Apr 2019 19:47:47 (#10 of 51)

Plymouth airport shut ages ago, didn’t it?



Yes, right after they spent millions moving a road so that the runway could be extended by 100 feet.

RosyLovelady - 04 Apr 2019 19:48:39 (#11 of 51)

I hope I live long enough to be able to make use of Crossrail.

Verdigris - 04 Apr 2019 19:49:48 (#12 of 51)

It'll only make you cross.

nemo75 - 04 Apr 2019 19:52:49 (#13 of 51)

Did they really? Blimey.

Verdigris - 04 Apr 2019 19:54:37 (#14 of 51)

Sutton Harbour Company will be laughing all the way to the bank with an extra bit to build on, thoughbut.

nemo75 - 04 Apr 2019 19:59:44 (#15 of 51)

What’s devonport like these days?

HouseOfLametta - 04 Apr 2019 20:01:35 (#16 of 51)

A tropical paradise.

Verdigris - 04 Apr 2019 20:04:07 (#17 of 51)

No idea. I moved away from that end of Devon 12 years ago and don't have any reason to go there.

They were liberating the Marks & Sparks that was trapped behind the dockyard wall, presumably, during the war. And they put some, presumably, inflammable cladding on three tower blocks.

hailesaladdie - 04 Apr 2019 21:29:10 (#18 of 51)

I think Ryanair will fill a fair bit of the gap from Exeter. Probably not Exeter-Norwich, which still ranks as one of the most unlikely flights I've taken.

FleurDuMal - 04 Apr 2019 21:30:40 (#19 of 51)

I just want them to cancel HS2.

hailesaladdie - 04 Apr 2019 23:16:54 (#20 of 51)

That would be monumentally short-sighted.

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