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Started by TigerPaws on Apr 20, 2019 5:05:56 PM
The Change UK Party

'Out to change the mould of UK politics'?

For whom?

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widenation - 20 Apr 2019 17:07:32 (#1 of 1002)

Or 'mold' of UK politics.

TigerPaws - 20 Apr 2019 17:09:24 (#2 of 1002)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/20/c
hange-uk-independent-group-natural-home-remain-alliance

PostmodernToss - 20 Apr 2019 17:11:13 (#3 of 1002)

Already starting to look like a missed opportunity.

I was genuinely excited when they formed; it all looked like the best of the Tories and Labour joining together to oppose the Corbynites and the Rees-Moggers. Months later and all we've had is Angela Smith planting her foot square into her gob, a few brief and unsatisfying interviews with Chuka Umunna, and marvellous Anna Soubry having a rant about Brexit in the HoC (which is great, but she was doing that anyway).

So far, so damp squib.

TigerPaws - 20 Apr 2019 17:15:54 (#4 of 1002)

Change UK, in what sense?

Gotout - 20 Apr 2019 17:17:32 (#5 of 1002)

"The anti-Brexit party Change UK"



Splitting the pro Europe votes even more....

PostmodernToss - 20 Apr 2019 17:20:43 (#6 of 1002)

Splitting the pro Europe votes even more...

Perhaps, but they may also hope to hoover up some from elsewhere. Lots of Remainer Labour moderates won't touch the Lib-Dems because of tuition fees, and lots of Remainer Tory moderates (like me) won't touch the Greens because their economic and social policies are even more batshit than Corbyn's. Lots of Scots Remainers won't touch the SNP because, well, they're the SNP and they're fucking useless. TIG/CUK was supposed to give all of these people a home.

YorenInTheNorth - 20 Apr 2019 17:21:08 (#7 of 1002)

Yeah they seem to have lost momentum but as Brexit continues the pressure on the two main parties might open up chances.

levelgaze - 20 Apr 2019 17:24:00 (#8 of 1002)

Like The Brexit Party, they promise to 'Change Politics'.

Lawlsie - 20 Apr 2019 17:24:05 (#9 of 1002)

I preferred them when they were the Tiggers.

bossab2 - 20 Apr 2019 17:24:28 (#10 of 1002)

Brexit is in the long grass till September.

Lawlsie - 20 Apr 2019 17:24:44 (#11 of 1002)

UKIP did change politics thobut Level.

levelgaze - 20 Apr 2019 17:25:25 (#12 of 1002)

They did! Farage is using it as his new slogan (I edited!).

Lawlsie - 20 Apr 2019 17:27:01 (#13 of 1002)

Farage most successful politician ever? Succeeded where all others failed and, maybe, changed the UK forever?

SinnerBoy - 20 Apr 2019 18:07:56 (#14 of 1002)

levelgaze -

Like The Brexit Party, they promise to 'Change Politics'.

Oh, I misheard, when they said that; I thought that they'd promised to "Talk Bollocks." The only party to live up to their word.

mikeshadow - 20 Apr 2019 18:09:01 (#15 of 1002)

Yes Farage changed things without being an MP and only having one MP in his party, even that was a temporary defection.

The Tigs haven’t got anyone in their party with that kind of influence. Not yet anyway.

SinnerBoy - 20 Apr 2019 18:10:28 (#16 of 1002)

All they need is an ill-informed gobshite and they're away!

DesEsseintes - 20 Apr 2019 19:52:55 (#17 of 1002)

They'll do alright if they dump the exLabour dregs, and concentrate on taking votes off the Conservatives.

InternationalVicar - 20 Apr 2019 19:56:12 (#18 of 1002)

I remember the arrival of the SDP helicopter

Shadrack22 - 20 Apr 2019 20:25:50 (#19 of 1002)

Curious all three threads about this new party have been exercises in trolling by Corbyn diehards. Poor old tribalism.

As to the question For whom? one argument is that Brexit has revealed that the internal electoral coalitions of both the Conservatives and Labour have broken down. So you have a large chunk of habitual voters for both parties feeling unable to endorse them due to this issue. Whether the Tiggers are the answer to this question is debatable, but it is early days.

darkhorse - 20 Apr 2019 20:29:54 (#20 of 1002)

Curious all three threads about this new party have been exercises in trolling by Corbyn diehards. Poor old tribalism

If only the "Corbyn diehards" acted with the fair-minded generosity of spirit so often shown on the Corbyn threads!

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