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Started by guigal on May 14, 2019 9:19:45 AM
Let us vote

Permanent residents and British expats should have the vote.

up to 10 million people are denied a vote by the current rules: 7 million UK residents and 3 million UK citizens abroad. http://www.letusvote.org.uk/

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Agaliarept - 14 May 2019 09:21:23 (#1 of 24)

and British expats should have the vote.

What a great way to get Fraj as our next PM!

Rendered - 14 May 2019 09:22:15 (#2 of 24)

Giggedy

guigal - 14 May 2019 09:22:58 (#3 of 24)

Become a citizen in their place of residence to vote? Why would you insist that expats do that?

tasselhoff - 14 May 2019 09:23:14 (#4 of 24)

You think expats would vote for Farage? I've got no data, but it seems a bit turkeys voting for Christmas.

mememe - 14 May 2019 09:24:06 (#5 of 24)

If they did, you'd have a lot more Tory voters in the system.

tasselhoff - 14 May 2019 09:25:00 (#6 of 24)

Probably. But that doesn't equate to a Garage vote, obviously.

tasselhoff - 14 May 2019 09:25:14 (#7 of 24)

I'll leave that

Agaliarept - 14 May 2019 09:27:06 (#8 of 24)

You think expats would vote for Farage? I've got no data, but it seems a bit turkeys voting for Christmas.

Didn't loads of ex pats for for Brexit?

tasselhoff - 14 May 2019 09:28:09 (#9 of 24)

I have a sample of one that voted 100% remain. Case closed.

guigal - 14 May 2019 09:28:29 (#10 of 24)

This 'Let us vote' campaign is, obviously, an anti-Brexit wheeze. Non the worse for that.

Delighted_User - 14 May 2019 09:28:33 (#11 of 24)

"Didn't loads of ex pats for for Brexit?"

Yep. Because they ain't the sharpest tools in the box, and failed to realise that it might put their status at risk. Remember, lots of them are people who left the UK because of too many foreigners.

There's a clip of some of them that's been linked to a few times on this board, from a Channel 4 programme, I think, but I can't be arsed to find it.

tasselhoff - 14 May 2019 09:29:50 (#12 of 24)

Lots of them? Some Costa denizens, maybe (he says, dead posh like).

guigal - 14 May 2019 09:39:04 (#13 of 24)

Think of Beano losing his freedom of movement.

Bill and his wife Joyce, who also backed leave, said they spent four months of the year in Spain as “an extended holiday every year” but would not be coming if there was a no deal Brexit as they would not be able to bring their dog Beano. https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-latest-news-expats-spain-vote-leave-regret-decision/

mememe - 14 May 2019 09:59:10 (#14 of 24)

There's a clip of some of them that's been linked to a few times on this board, from a Channel 4 programme, I think, but I can't be arsed to find it.

As an 'expat' myself, knowing a lot of other 'expats' and being involved in a number of campaigns about Brexit from an expatriate perspective, I can assure you that these people are atypical: they just make good telly/copy

guigal - 14 May 2019 10:16:07 (#15 of 24)

Many Brits and other foreigners on the Costa del Sol are second-home-owners. They're not year-round in Spain. They're only seasonal expats and have the vote in their home country. Still,as the tale of Beano illustrates #13 , they were daft if they voted Leave.

JacobReesBogg - 14 May 2019 11:28:25 (#16 of 24)

I have a friend in Germany, who has been there 30 years. She has no vote in the UK. She was employed by the UK government overseas and only ever paid tax in the UK although she was based in Germany working for the UK Government. She is still taxed on her UK pension in the UK.

Up until, now she had a German health insurance, which was reimbursed at the end of each year by the NHS. She has been told by the German Insurance people that it will no longer apply in the event of a no deal so she will have no health care.

They have told her she must pay out of the teachers pension she receives from the UK, but a percentage based on the gross amount, not the net. She won't be able to afford it.

She's got quite a lot of health issues and cannot afford to and doesn't want to move back to the UK.

Expats are not just Bill and Joyce and Beano living in Spain.

When I tell people out of the UK that you lose your vote after a certain number of years , they don't believe me. I think the UK is alone in having this system.

If you are a citizen of a country you should have the right to vote in its elections wherever you live - if citizenship is to mean anything.

Residents should not have the right to vote, except maybe in local elections. There should be a clear difference between residency and citizenship.

HouseOfLametta - 14 May 2019 11:47:42 (#17 of 24)

I have a friend

Always with the implausible hyperbole.

mememe - 14 May 2019 12:01:13 (#18 of 24)

She has been told by the German Insurance people that it will no longer apply in the event of a no deal so she will have no health care.

I would tell her not to worry about no deal.

thisonehasalittlehat - 14 May 2019 12:34:14 (#19 of 24)

On the evidence of recent elections we should have fewer people voting, and lesser people not voting.

AlanII - 14 May 2019 14:33:15 (#20 of 24)

I think the UK is alone in having this system.

I think Ireland has something similar. Either way, your friend is being treated very shabbily.

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