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Started by TheVoiceOfReason on Jul 8, 2019 12:49:33 PM
Cyclists’ fury as new documentary brands them “the scourge of our streets”

Members of the cycling community have reacted with fury to a new documentary which labels them “the scourge of our streets”. Horrifying footage of lawless cyclists careering through pedestrian crossings and mowing down hapless pedestrians on pavements is criticised as “fake news” by Chief MAMIL Peter Walker.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2019/jul/08/channel-5s-nonsense-will-make-me-and-other-cyclists-less-safe

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FrankieTeardrop - 08 Jul 2019 13:05:09 (#1 of 360)

Anybody would think Climate Change wasn't a thing...

solomongursky - 08 Jul 2019 13:08:04 (#2 of 360)

The producers asked Scottish cyclist David Brennan if they could use his helmet cam footage. They promised:

'I totally understand that it's far more nuanced than us V them....'

and

'I am not out to pull the wool over anyone else's eyes'

he told them to fxxx off.

Gotout - 08 Jul 2019 13:10:03 (#3 of 360)

I like cycling but unfortunately can't cycle any more because of arthritis. I never had any problem with other road users though, maybe it's a city thing?

tasselhoff - 08 Jul 2019 13:17:20 (#4 of 360)

How many pedestrian deaths have been caused by cyclists as opposed to, say, cars?

hailesaladdie - 08 Jul 2019 13:17:24 (#5 of 360)

> I like cycling but unfortunately can't cycle any more because of arthritis. I never had any problem with other road users though, maybe it's a city thing?

It depends on where you are. I've always found London one of the most aggressive places, but then you're simply going past more people, so odds are you're going to find an arsehole more easily.

On a rural commute in Herts and Beds, I had pretty much no problems at all. Everybody polite, bit of give and take and got on with our day nicely.

When I used to cycle in York and Newcastle, it was great - never a problem.

Where I am now, in a small town, it's mostly ignorance - close passes, overtakey-brakeys, but never had anything malicious. To be honest, people here display the same lack of care towards other drivers and pedestrians too, so I don't feel singled out.

Tagyourit - 08 Jul 2019 13:22:19 (#6 of 360)

There are arseholes in cars there are arseholes on bikes there are even arseholes on foot. The only difference is that if I behave like an arsehole in my land rover I can cause a shed load more damage than if I'm on my pusher.

I'd make cycling a mandatory part of learning to drive (for those who are able).

Arjuna - 08 Jul 2019 13:25:59 (#7 of 360)

At 9.15pm on Tuesday, a reasonably sizeable number of people, the majority of whom probably drive motor vehicles, will sit down to watch what is undoubtedly the worst, most scaremongering, inaccurate, downright irresponsible programme on cycling I’ve ever seen.

well it's Channel Five, so not going to be that many

Moschops - 08 Jul 2019 13:29:43 (#8 of 360)

he told them to fxxx off.

Unnecessarily rude there

tasselhoff - 08 Jul 2019 13:39:22 (#9 of 360)

He should have just told them to fuck off instead.

And what tag said.

solomongursky - 08 Jul 2019 13:39:27 (#10 of 360)

They feature black cabbies calling Londoners on bikes "vermin" 6 months after a black cabbie killed a Great Ormond St professor on her bike.

Catspyjamas17 - 08 Jul 2019 13:42:27 (#11 of 360)

There have been plenty of programmes about people who can't drive, why not have one about lycra louts?

solomongursky - 08 Jul 2019 13:44:58 (#12 of 360)

Cos it's accusing completely blameless riders of breaking the law. People get hurt by this stuff.

Moschops - 08 Jul 2019 13:49:38 (#13 of 360)

Have you seen the programme Solomon?

tasselhoff - 08 Jul 2019 13:50:17 (#14 of 360)

The article does paint a rather damning picture of the show.

solomongursky - 08 Jul 2019 13:53:31 (#15 of 360)

Have you seen the programme Solomon?

Nope, I read the article.

HarveyRabbit - 08 Jul 2019 14:03:41 (#16 of 360)

Cos it's accusing completely blameless riders of breaking the law. People get hurt by this stuff.

It's called "othering". Of course it's wrong and it gets people hurt, but you are not averse to "othering", in fact, going further, naming names and demanding they be arrested when it suits, are you solo?

TheVoiceOfReason - 08 Jul 2019 14:20:34 (#17 of 360)

The article does paint a rather damning picture of the show.

One of this chap’s recent articles in the Graun was along the lines of “cyclists don’t really break road rules even though there are endless videos on YouTube showing them doing so, and even if they do break the odd law and intimidate other road users it doesn’t really matter because they can’t kill them”. So he’s maybe not the most unbiased journalist out there.

Moschops - 08 Jul 2019 14:23:55 (#18 of 360)

Didn't a cyclist kill a woman a few years back?

HouseOfLametta - 08 Jul 2019 14:36:44 (#19 of 360)

And still we allow them on our streets!

widenation - 08 Jul 2019 14:39:39 (#20 of 360)

The programme is presumably providing an antidote to the endless Tour De France stuff - which thankfully doesn't have Chris 'slithering reptile' Froome participating this time.

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