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Started by HerrWalrus on Jul 9, 2019 6:48:51 PM
Northern Ireland matters

Thread to update us on perfectly legitimate events.

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HerrWalrus - 09 Jul 2019 18:49:42 (#1 of 20)

Is this a serious contender?

https://twitter.com/LdnIrishARC/status/11486273820
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Ayes 383, Nos 73 - New Clause 1 is added to the bill! NC1 requires the UK Government to extend marriage equality to Northern Ireland if an executive is not formed by 21st October 2019

HorstVogel - 09 Jul 2019 18:52:02 (#2 of 20)

What will the DUP make with this?

Arjuna - 09 Jul 2019 18:52:07 (#3 of 20)

Sinn Fein will be boycotting the thread until it is moved from UK news

popperhead - 09 Jul 2019 18:56:49 (#4 of 20)

I assume DUP will treat this in the same way the treat the 56% of the populace who voted to remain.

The same way they howl at any suggestion that NI be treated any different than the rest of the UK (unless of course we're talking about poofs and fallen women).

With utter contempt unless it is forced upon them. Still I suppose they are just mirroring their English (and indeed US) counterparts who have given up any semblance of moral rectitude in the face of reelection.

Winner - 09 Jul 2019 18:59:27 (#5 of 20)

What can the DUP do about it though?

popperhead - 09 Jul 2019 19:07:17 (#6 of 20)

For example "An April 2018 poll found support for same-sex marriage among Northern Ireland's population at 76%, with 18% opposed.

A 2019 poll cinducted by YouGov revealed that 70% of UK residents agreed that same-sex marriage should be legalised in Northern Ireland (up from 65% in 2018), including 55% of those living in Northern Ireland. The number of Conservative voters who expressed support was 62% (up from 54% in 2018). 81% of Remain voters said they would support same-sex marriage, compared to 60% of Leave voters. In Northern Ireland itself, 72% of women supported same-sex marriage, compared to 40% of men"

It disappoints me hugely that these fuckers aren't kicked into touch for so regularly going against the majority opinion, patently just to hang on to their extremist wing (not unlike Mr. Trump across the pond).

SinnerBoy - 09 Jul 2019 20:51:46 (#7 of 20)

HorstVogel -

What will the DUP make with this?

Splutter, go purple, become speechless with ever increasing rage and fury, before keeling over with apoplexy? The moderates, of course.

HorstVogel - 09 Jul 2019 20:58:16 (#8 of 20)

good

frantastic - 09 Jul 2019 20:59:42 (#9 of 20)

Or.... reconvene the parliament?

YorenInTheNorth - 09 Jul 2019 21:12:14 (#10 of 20)

#5

They could bring down the Government but that wont stop the changes.

guigal - 10 Jul 2019 01:02:37 (#11 of 20)

MPs at Westminster have tonight voted to make same-sex marriage and abortion legal in Northern Ireland by 383 to 73 (as mentioned above (HerrWalrus ( #1 of 10). The Northern Ireland Assembly would have a vote on this if it was functioning but it collapsed more than two years ago.

JerkinMcGherkin - 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 (#12 of 20)

So NI will have the same laws as the rest of the UK? That should make the Unionists happy. Um...

Lento_ - 10 Jul 2019 09:51:07 (#13 of 20)

It would be both interesting and a bit depressing if the thing which eventually solved the current logjam in NI politics was that the threat of giving women and gay people equal rights to in the rest of the UK caused the various bigots to agree to work together to block it.

"Work together for the good of the people you've been elected to serve" hasn't worked but "work together or we'll force you to be a bit less homophobic and misogynistic" might.

FrankieTeardrop - 10 Jul 2019 09:53:56 (#14 of 20)

Who, apart from the DUP, would block it?

RosyLovelady - 10 Jul 2019 09:55:23 (#15 of 20)

I wonder how many lives they reckon their law saved, and how the survivors are getting on now.

HerrWalrus - 11 Jul 2019 11:16:52 (#16 of 20)

The penny drops...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-48945843

Brexit: No-deal could hit NI economy, says DUP's Donaldson

The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) recognises that a no-deal Brexit could hit Northern Ireland's economy in the short term, one of its MPs has said.

Sir Jeffrey Donaldson said his party was working with the government on how to mitigate any potential damage.

It follows a Department for the Economy report warning a no-deal scenario could put 40,000 NI jobs at risk.

machiavelli - 11 Jul 2019 11:20:10 (#17 of 20)

The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) recognises that a no-deal Brexit could hit Northern Ireland's economy in the short term, one of its MPs has said.

I guess a generation is a short time in Norn.

scottscott - 11 Jul 2019 11:49:45 (#18 of 20)

With Tory leadership favourite Boris Johnson saying the UK “must” and “will” leave the EU on 31 October, a no-deal Brexit looks increasingly likely. But what could a no-deal exit mean for all of us? Reporter Jane Corbin travels the nation to find out. From fishermen in Devon to dairy farmers in Northern Ireland, she meets those who fear financial ruin as well as those who see it as an opportunity to be embraced. She examines the work done and billions spent to prepare for a no-deal Brexit and asks: how ready is the UK?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0006nzb/pan
orama-nodeal-brexit-are-we-ready


Some sobering stuff on NI/RoI no-deal consequences between 21:47 - 26:51

Lento_ - 11 Jul 2019 13:51:19 (#19 of 20)

Sir Jeffrey Donaldson said his party was working with the government on how to mitigate any potential damage.



AKA another massive bribe in return for votes.

SinnerBoy - 11 Jul 2019 15:08:14 (#20 of 20)

Brexit: No-deal could hit NI economy, says DUP's Donaldson

Brexit: No-deal Will Ruin NI Economy, more like.

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