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Started by TheVoiceOfReason on Jul 11, 2019 8:01:26 AM
More than HALF of Britons have no religion...but those that do hate GAYS!

The growth of secularism in the UK is unabated with fresh data showing stark generational differences and a new confidence among the non-religious to declare themselves atheist. Only 1% of people aged 18-24 identify as Church of England, according to the British Social Attitudes (BSA) survey for 2018.

At the same time, the number of people who said they considered it wrong for people to have GAY SEX rose for the first time since the Aids crisis, with people from non-Christian religious groups the most likely to disapprove.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/11/uk-secularism-on-rise-as-more-than-half-say-they-have-no-religion

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/11/ac
ceptance-gay-sex-decline-uk-first-time-since-aids-crisis

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Rendered - 11 Jul 2019 08:35:10 (#1 of 130)

Did they distinguish between bumming and scissoring?

TRaney - 11 Jul 2019 08:37:14 (#2 of 130)

And intercrural!

Rendered - 11 Jul 2019 08:37:43 (#3 of 130)

Stephen Fry, there!!!

TRaney - 11 Jul 2019 08:38:42 (#4 of 130)

When being different isn't different enough he has to be different

FrankieTeardrop - 11 Jul 2019 12:13:52 (#5 of 130)

"And intercrural!"

Not heard of that, am I missing out?

tasselhoff - 11 Jul 2019 12:16:09 (#6 of 130)

It's mad how some people can get so riled up about what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes.

Rendered - 11 Jul 2019 12:16:45 (#7 of 130)

Not heard of that, am I missing out?.

It's pretty good when you just can't be arsed.

FrankieTeardrop - 11 Jul 2019 12:18:03 (#8 of 130)

Sounds perfect

xDiggy - 11 Jul 2019 12:31:52 (#9 of 130)

intercrural

I want to google but daren't in the office.

Rendered - 11 Jul 2019 12:35:55 (#10 of 130)

When you discover the definition you'll be able to appreciate my brilliant joke.

guigal - 11 Jul 2019 12:39:27 (#11 of 130)

The non-religious are increasingly atheist. ...Nevertheless, most people are tolerant of others’ religious beliefs. (The Guardian)

Non-religion is not a religion and secularists, may or may not be religious themselves, but what it means is tolerance of religious beliefs and acceptance of the right not to have any religious beliefs at all..

FrankieTeardrop - 11 Jul 2019 12:58:14 (#12 of 130)

"When you discover the definition you'll be able to appreciate my brilliant joke."

I just did. I used an open tab on my phone's browser that had a recipe for curried lamb shanks on it. What are the chances of that?

RosyLovelady - 11 Jul 2019 13:01:38 (#13 of 130)

From what I've observed, strict atheism requires a leap of something very akin to faith. But perhaps atheism isn't quite the same as non-religion and different rules apply.

FrankieTeardrop - 11 Jul 2019 13:02:20 (#14 of 130)

"From what I've observed, strict atheism requires a leap of something very akin to faith."

Not really, no.

Do you believe in Zeus, Odin, Thoth? If not, then athiesm is easy to understand, it is like your lack of belief in Zeus, Odin, Thoth, only with Jahweh added to the list.

RosyLovelady - 11 Jul 2019 13:03:59 (#15 of 130)

Ye-e-e-e-es.

FrankieTeardrop - 11 Jul 2019 13:10:36 (#16 of 130)

That suggests you don't agree.

guigal - 11 Jul 2019 13:12:10 (#17 of 130)

strict atheism requires a leap of something very akin to faith.

You only have to notice how ridiculous religious beliefs are. In Pakistan you mustn't do so because, if you let out what you think, you'll be arrested for blasphemy and sentenced to death. In America, you'd better keep quiet about it, at least till quite recently. Because of the negative results socially, politically and in business. In the UK, secularism has civilized society to the point where the risks of honesty are not so great.

RosyLovelady - 11 Jul 2019 13:12:46 (#18 of 130)

The act of faith is involved when atheists insist that modern science has already provided the answer to everything and, if it hasn't, it very soon will.

Delighted_User - 11 Jul 2019 13:13:45 (#19 of 130)

There are people who are adamant that there is no divine power. They act as though it's something that can be proven, and indeed often say it has been proven. These are, I suspect, the people Ms Lovelady compares to believers, and while I don't think they're as numerous as she thinks they are, they aren't as rare as others would have us believe.

I don't believe in a divine power because I have no evidence for one. Even if there were one, I can't see how I could possibly know how it wanted me to behave, given that the various groups who claim to know the rules have very different takes on them. By definition, most of them have to be wrong. This is rather different from a belief that the non-existence of divinity can be proven, though it comes to much the same thing.

FrankieTeardrop - 11 Jul 2019 13:15:16 (#20 of 130)

"The act of faith is involved when atheists insist that modern science has already provided the answer to everything and, if it hasn't, it very soon will."

No atheist has ever said anything remotely like that.

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