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Started by DesEsseintes on May 21, 2020 10:07:37 PM
“Students will be assumed to have passed.”
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phantlers - 21 May 2020 23:50:09 (#1 of 62)

Oh, thought this was going to be another coronavirus thread.

bossab2 - 22 May 2020 08:55:17 (#2 of 62)

Its weird how my son was still

writing with a pen

At school.

In 2020.

Arjuna - 22 May 2020 08:58:17 (#3 of 62)

If we can do without GCSEs and university exams now, why go back?

we should use that logic for everything we are doing in lockdown

Agaliarept - 22 May 2020 09:02:23 (#4 of 62)

we should use that logic for everything we are doing in lockdown

Couldn't agree more. It was so nice to see quiet roads during lockdown.

Sadly it seems most people have been desperate to get back in their cars recently.

Arjuna - 22 May 2020 09:04:54 (#5 of 62)

It has been nice cycling on roads with few cars

cozzer - 22 May 2020 09:06:04 (#6 of 62)

we should use that logic for everything we are doing in lockdown

Indeed. Who needs pubs, and shops, and cafes, and hairdressers, and live music, and sport, and theatres, and cinema, and seeing their friends and family, and holidays, and jobs?

xDiggy - 22 May 2020 09:11:57 (#7 of 62)

Oh, It's Simon Jenkins. I've not read it yet. Can I make some guesses? It'll be grandly condescending and complacent. Some subjects - maths? - will be singled out for their particular pointlessness. There will be sweeping assertions made with casual certainty.

Tagyourit - 22 May 2020 09:13:19 (#8 of 62)

There will be sweeping assertions made with casual certainty.

Hed fit right in on JTT then.

xDiggy - 22 May 2020 09:13:50 (#9 of 62)

Maths is the apotheosis of the exam, with its pretence of exactitude. To me, Wolfram portrays maths exams as like taking a driving test with a horse and cart.

Tick.

xDiggy - 22 May 2020 09:14:10 (#10 of 62)

It needs to take over where the computer leaves off, in a world of calculated uncertainty, risk and, dare we say it, common sense.

Tick.

Arjuna - 22 May 2020 09:15:11 (#11 of 62)

pretence?

it is kinda how maths works

Arjuna - 22 May 2020 09:16:23 (#12 of 62)

but I couldn't say that with precision

bossab2 - 22 May 2020 09:16:32 (#13 of 62)

Memorising stuff is pointless in a world where you have Google at your fingertips...

Goves 'reforms' set education back 20 years.

levelgaze - 22 May 2020 09:17:08 (#14 of 62)

As far as Universities go, allowing first years to progress to second year without assessment makes no odds.

xDiggy - 22 May 2020 09:17:50 (#15 of 62)

The thing with Simon is, all his columns have been written before:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/jun
/06/maths.alevels


In the age of computers, maths beyond simple and applied arithmetic is needed only by specialists.

In the two decades during which British pupils have fled from maths towards social science and the humanities, the economy has boomed. It has done so on the strength of finance, marketing and design, on service activities that have little mathematical content.

I always particular enjoy the idea that 'finance' has little mathematical content.

browserbutton - 22 May 2020 09:18:02 (#16 of 62)

a world where you have Google at your fingertips...

But when the internet crashes, better sharpen that pencil.

Dubris - 22 May 2020 09:19:03 (#17 of 62)

#13 - Assessment should be about demonstrating understanding, not just memory. And your suggested use of Google shows that - there's no point in Googling something if you don't know what to do with the information you find from your search.

Arjuna - 22 May 2020 09:24:22 (#18 of 62)

"why don't we do this" is always the laziest way to start an argument

Arjuna - 22 May 2020 09:26:56 (#19 of 62)

In the two decades during which British pupils have fled from maths towards social science and the humanities

is this actually true?

xDiggy - 22 May 2020 09:27:54 (#20 of 62)

Well this was in 2008. It didn't age well.

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