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Started by Tinymcsmithy on Sep 16, 2020 10:29:05 AM
Senior Tory is concerned about having solved homelessness …

… because having proved it’s easy to solve, people will blame them when they chuck people back into the streets.

https://twitter.com/o_lloyd/status/130596115189803
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From the Times apparently.

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AlanII - 16 Sep 2020 10:40:28 (#1 of 17)

Homelessness has been deliberate Tory policy for years.

Tinymcsmithy - 16 Sep 2020 10:41:51 (#2 of 17)

Also job insecurity.

AlanII - 16 Sep 2020 10:47:20 (#3 of 17)

Yep.

Pinkgum - 16 Sep 2020 11:55:21 (#4 of 17)

Is it solved?

Manchester city centre is the same as usual makeshift beds and tents all over the place. I know many have been put in hotels, but there are old and new faces apparently sleeping rough.

Tinymcsmithy - 16 Sep 2020 13:21:54 (#5 of 17)

Fair enough. I doubt that Tory ministers consider anything outside of London as worth considering.

JennyRad - 16 Sep 2020 13:55:04 (#6 of 17)

There are people on the streets begging in London; I'm not sure if it's fewer than pre-Covid but they're certainly there. (Edit: and, thinking about it, beggars on the train claiming to be homeless - I would say I've seen more of them in the last month than I usually would.)

bailliegillies - 16 Sep 2020 13:57:45 (#7 of 17)

Most of us wouldn't have noticed whether or not there were less people sleeping rough as we were abiding by the rules and not going out. So there's no way we can know for sure.

TheVoiceOfReason - 16 Sep 2020 13:59:07 (#8 of 17)

And, you know, “solving homelessness” by rounding people up and putting them in an empty hotel is maybe a little bit different from actually solving homelessness.

Tinymcsmithy - 16 Sep 2020 14:13:36 (#9 of 17)

All good points.

And really, we’re talking about rough sleepers, rather than homelessness and insecure housing, for that matter.

The senior Tory in question is still a cunt though.

Hilary - 16 Sep 2020 15:02:23 (#10 of 17)

One can anticipate the numbers of beggars decreasing significantly, now that fewer and fewer people carry cash on them. A beggar who offered contactless payment facilities might be looked at a little askance.

Scribble - 16 Sep 2020 15:09:51 (#11 of 17)

It doesn't appear to be solved in Lancaster. I saw loads of people sleeping in doorways this morning. It's been noticeable for a few weeks now. We never had a huge issue with rough sleepers until the last five years or so, when the number seemed to increase a lot. Many of them are from out of area and ended up here after being sent to one of the local rehab units with nowhere to go afterwards (this is what they've told me, at least, no idea if that is actually the case).

FrankieTeardrop - 16 Sep 2020 15:32:43 (#12 of 17)

There are people on the streets begging in London; I'm not sure if it's fewer than pre-Covid but they're certainly there.


In Leeds too - and tent cities as well. Of course, it may be that those begging aren't homeless; certainly there are lots of "hidden" homeless who aren't begging, they might even have jobs

FrankieTeardrop - 16 Sep 2020 15:33:18 (#13 of 17)

A beggar who offered contactless payment facilities might be looked at a little askance.


Why?

TigerPaws - 16 Sep 2020 16:51:07 (#14 of 17)

People with mental health issues and addicts are more likely to become homeless.

Without better mental health services lives will unravel.

With a government that is likely to provide state aid grants to drug dealers don't expect services for addicts to receive more funds.

And then there is Corvid-19.

Tadagee - 16 Sep 2020 17:00:16 (#15 of 17)

As if Covid-19 wasn't enough!

TheVoiceOfReason - 17 Sep 2020 08:52:52 (#16 of 17)

A beggar who offered contactless payment facilities might be looked at a little askance.

Already happening in Sweden on my last visit.

Crayola - 17 Sep 2020 08:59:02 (#17 of 17)

I had a chat with a Big Issue seller pre-Covid about the cash situation. He said it's a really significant change for them. Apparently they had been working on ways to be contactless, but actually the danger is to the seller as the devices become a thing of worth to be nicked/mugged for. Even though they clearly have a central way of only paying the actual person with the device.

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