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Started by TheVoiceOfReason on Nov 12, 2020 10:56:56 PM
BAME fury as “BAME” offensive to BAME

The term BAME is insulting and should be retired from use, according to shock new research out today. The term BAME stands for Black Asian and Minority Ethnic, but it “places recognition on some communities whilst ignoring others entirely” and does not allow for “ethnic and cultural complexities”, according to the boffins who performed the study.

Equalities Minister Kemi Badenoch damned the research, saying, “BAME is great! I love BAME! Go BAME!” Editor of The Canary Kerry-Anne Mendoza claimed that the expression “BAME” had been coined by Labour Zionists to slander Jeremy Corbyn, and comedian Lenny Henry was unsure what it stood for.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/12/bame-term-offends-those-it-attempts-to-describe-sporting-survey-finds-sporting-equals

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GyratingTrampoline - 12 Nov 2020 23:48:18 (#1 of 165)

Seems to me that it means non - white.

machiavelli - 12 Nov 2020 23:50:13 (#2 of 165)

Who gets the blame for the BAME?

machiavelli - 12 Nov 2020 23:51:57 (#3 of 165)

Don't BAME it on the sunshine

Don't BAME it on the moonlight

Don't BAME it on the good times

BAME it on the boogie

DesEsseintes - 12 Nov 2020 23:55:57 (#4 of 165)

I dunno - my friend of supposed afro-caribbean persuasion used to laugh about that, called it affro-caribby-doodah

it's all racist bollocks, innit

moto748 - 13 Nov 2020 00:48:46 (#5 of 165)

Well so is the way 'white' and 'black' are defined, of course.

TauCeti - 13 Nov 2020 08:57:49 (#6 of 165)

It's stupidity exacerbated by idiocy -

TauCeti - 13 Nov 2020 08:58:11 (#7 of 165)

Got to pigeonhole everything in order to make sense; and misses the sense completely.

Dementor - 13 Nov 2020 09:01:18 (#8 of 165)

The term euphemism treadmill was coined by psychologist and linguist Stephen Pinker in a 1994 article in the New York Times. It refers to a process by which words that are used as a euphemism for a concept that's somehow tainted then end up becoming tainted themselves by association.

You need to periodically replace the word for foreign devils because racists get comfortable saying it and so it becomes a bit racist itself.

TauCeti - 13 Nov 2020 09:03:40 (#9 of 165)

I can't stand that guy

thisonehasalittlehat - 13 Nov 2020 09:06:37 (#10 of 165)

He probably doesn't need your financial support.

GyratingTrampoline - 13 Nov 2020 09:28:27 (#11 of 165)

He's right about the euphemism treadmill though

thisonehasalittlehat - 13 Nov 2020 09:39:56 (#12 of 165)

I've never been very comfortable with BAME. Although BME was less inclusive, because it was not an acronym, it didn't trip off the tongue like BAME. So it was used in specific and careful circumstances. BAME is just a bit too easy to use in inappropriate contexts, and ends up sounding a bit glib and dismissive.

thisonehasalittlehat - 13 Nov 2020 09:40:58 (#13 of 165)

Maybe just The Others would be an appropriate replacement, given the basic function of such terms.

Agaliarept - 13 Nov 2020 09:42:39 (#14 of 165)

Are you othering hat??

levelgaze - 13 Nov 2020 09:43:54 (#15 of 165)

My editor had been getting a lot of criticism about the lack of diversity on his list and had made some strenuous efforts to put this right, as is proper. Describing this when chatting at a function, he suddenly broke out into 'Coz now I'm all about the BAME, 'bout the BAME - No Trouble', which beats mach's one upthread, I reckon.

thisonehasalittlehat - 13 Nov 2020 09:43:57 (#16 of 165)

Well, in one sense yes I am, because I am indulging in using the concept of other, however in a more important sense I am not, I am merely suggesting that this often becomes the primary function of such terminology.

Arjuna - 13 Nov 2020 09:44:12 (#17 of 165)

I don't think it is a problem in itself, it just becomes overused in a lazy way, instead of focusing on different ethnic groups they are continually lumped together.

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SinnerBoy - 13 Nov 2020 09:47:10 (#19 of 165)

Why "Minority Ethnic"? What happened to 'Ethnic Minority"?

Agaliarept - 13 Nov 2020 09:47:22 (#20 of 165)

I am merely suggesting that this often becomes the primary function of such terminology.

Oh I agree.

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