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Started by HerrWalrus on Jan 4, 2021 8:34:42 AM
it's only going to get worse.

https://twitter.com/ChrissieGrech/status/134573954
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"Johnson has gone rogue and is trying to kill his own people"

The UK electorate voted for Brexiter muppets to run the country, what did they expect?

Is there anyway to replace this bunch of clowns?

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HerrWalrus - 04 Jan 2021 08:37:36 (#1 of 472)

If nothing else scares you, this graph should.

https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/13458390363
93521154?s=20

dottie30 - 04 Jan 2021 08:40:46 (#2 of 472)

Are we now getting to the stage where it will be impossible to do adequate testing/tracing/isolating?

DogBreath - 04 Jan 2021 10:54:49 (#3 of 472)

Don't worry. Domestic cleaners are immune, apparently. All you have to do is call your house a workplace. That way the virus knows not to infect anyone in the hou....sorry, workplace.

DogBreath - 04 Jan 2021 11:15:13 (#4 of 472)

dottie,

Yes. It is too late.

bailliegillies - 04 Jan 2021 11:17:00 (#5 of 472)

The EU’s Victory

Barnier achieved everything the EU wanted. He secured a free trade agreement to avoid a shock to the economy that could have come from a strong reaction of the stock markets. British exports will now be allowed into Europe only when they are beneficial to the continental economy. If UK car manufacturers use parts made in Europe, the final product will satisfy the rule of origin. If the parts come from elsewhere, however, the cars will be too expensive to sell in Europe. Meanwhile, if the British violate any of the EU rules, the level playing field rules allow Brussels to retaliate. Finally, the French won on the contested issue of fishing rights.

https://fpif.org/the-brexit-trade-treaty-what-was-really-negotiated/

browserbutton - 04 Jan 2021 11:19:52 (#6 of 472)

'The result for the UK is devastating. British negotiators were after the chimera of sovereignty and not real economic interests, which made for a very one-sided deal. Still, in true Trumpian fashion, the UK prime minister declared victory.'

dreams99 - 04 Jan 2021 11:22:52 (#7 of 472)

Are we now getting to the stage where it will be impossible to do adequate testing/tracing/isolating?

We were past that stage in April.

machiavelli - 04 Jan 2021 11:27:18 (#8 of 472)

Are we now getting to the stage where it will be impossible to do adequate testing/tracing/isolating?

We could have recovered the position over the summer if the fucking government hadn't farmed it out to their mates. Public health teams have a much better hit rate than fucking Serco.

DogBreath - 04 Jan 2021 11:28:37 (#9 of 472)

Shit!

Arjuna - 04 Jan 2021 11:30:07 (#10 of 472)

It was always a tough task but Bojo went with the we will have world beating system in months line, it does not work like that, it is one huge live experiment and rash promises and unrealistic deadlines just makes things worse.

TauCeti - 04 Jan 2021 11:30:49 (#11 of 472)

What a ridiculous statement #5 - honestly, it beggars belief; Eu didn't want UK to leave ffs.

HerrWalrus - 04 Jan 2021 11:31:49 (#12 of 472)

At least they are consistent. They have consistently over-promised and under-delivered.

fogsake - 04 Jan 2021 11:31:55 (#13 of 472)

Part of the thing these days with the likes of Johnson and Trump is permanent election campaign. So this is more often like election promises than government.

TauCeti - 04 Jan 2021 11:32:36 (#14 of 472)

|for once that they are 'consistent' it is to screw People; the British that is.

BasilSeal - 04 Jan 2021 11:44:25 (#15 of 472)

What a ridiculous statement #5 - honestly, it beggars belief; Eu didn't want UK to leave ffs.



Well no, but the UK left at the beginning of last year and their negotiating position was therefore predicated on that fact. once the UK remaining in the EU was no longer a possible outcome, then a deal favourable to the EU becomes the next best option.

DogBreath - 04 Jan 2021 11:50:20 (#16 of 472)

Anyone know if EU state aid rules still apply?

ChankNolen - 04 Jan 2021 12:02:01 (#17 of 472)

No they don't.

That's a ridiculous article, by the way.

RosyLovelady - 04 Jan 2021 12:09:23 (#18 of 472)

Well it would be, wouldn't it. What else do you expect from someone called Alexander Atanasov?

RhodaDendron - 04 Jan 2021 12:12:48 (#19 of 472)

then a deal favourable to the EU becomes the next best option.

What? You mean the EU tried to negotiate a deal that was favourable to them? Blimey!

ChankNolen - 04 Jan 2021 12:19:11 (#20 of 472)

If you start from a perspective that dismisses any upsides from regulatory freedom out of hand, then obviously you are not going to understand the benefits of a deal that prioritises regulatory freedom.

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