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Started by angelico on Feb 11, 2021 9:25:23 AM
NHS "reforms"

Dedicated thread.

Let's watch what happens and what claims are accurate. 40 new hospitals. No further privatisation.

Jacob_Richter - 11 Feb 2021 12:13:15 (#1 of 82)

A new bill to reform the NHS in England: the wrong proposals at the wrong time

Jacob_Richter - 11 Feb 2021 12:14:44 (#2 of 82)

The leaked white paper for Health and Care in England reveals more privatisation at scale, market deregulation and huge scope for corruption, loss of universality and social solidarity

Tinymcsmithy - 11 Feb 2021 12:15:47 (#3 of 82)

Ho hum.

Arjuna - 11 Feb 2021 12:17:05 (#4 of 82)

Allyson Pollock is always worth listening to, she did great work on PFI.

Verdigris - 11 Feb 2021 12:17:19 (#5 of 82)

<subscribes out of a sense of duty>

Tinymcsmithy - 11 Feb 2021 12:21:14 (#6 of 82)

Fuck and they’ve got years to do this.

angelico - 11 Feb 2021 12:28:57 (#7 of 82)

Guardian feed:

Matt Hancock tells MPs Covid has made NHS reform 'more, not less, urgent'

Matt Hancock, the health secretary, starts his Commons statement on the NHS reform white paper by paying tribute to the work done by NHS staff during the pandemic.

Their sense of teamwork has been inspiring, he says.

He says the government has been working on these plans for a long time.

Even before the pandemic, it was clear that reform was needed to reduce bureaucracy, he says. The plans are based on what NHS staff want, he claims.

And, addressing those who ask why this has to happen now, he says:

The response to Covid-19 has, in my view, accelerated the pace of collaboration across health and social care, showing what we can do when we work together flexibly, adopting new technology focused on the needs of the patient and setting aside bureaucratic rules.

The pandemic has also brought home the importance of preventing ill health in the first place by tackling obesity and taking steps like fluoridation that will improve the health of the nation.

The pandemic has made the changes in this white paper more, not less, urgent ... There is no better time than now.

[I said they'd use the pandemic as cover. I take no fucking pleasure at all in being right. Bunch of cunts.]

rearranged - 11 Feb 2021 12:36:45 (#8 of 82)

So the teamwork has been inspiring, demonstrating the need to break up the teams.

And I assume the reduction in red tape will be like the reduction we have from escaping EU red tape.

tasselhoff - 11 Feb 2021 12:37:42 (#9 of 82)

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

fogsake - 11 Feb 2021 12:44:24 (#10 of 82)

Is anyone surprised?

Arjuna - 11 Feb 2021 12:44:38 (#11 of 82)

All NHS reforms are about getting rid of red tape, would have thought it would be gone by now.

Arjuna - 11 Feb 2021 12:45:08 (#12 of 82)

why are they still buying so much red tape?

Tinymcsmithy - 11 Feb 2021 12:47:01 (#13 of 82)

“Keir Starmer releases statement expressing a cautious welcome for the reforms and offering advice and support to help guide them in the right direction”.

“At the same time, two labour MPs have had the Labour whip withdrawn for tweeting their objections to the planned reforms, calling them ‘privatisation by the front door’ and ‘a disgraceful attack on the NHS’. Mr Starmer’s office released a statement calling for civility in all matters and committing to a thorough and collegial debate on the proposals “

fogsake - 11 Feb 2021 12:51:41 (#14 of 82)

So much for Labour.

crabbyoldbat - 11 Feb 2021 12:53:03 (#15 of 82)

it's difficult for Labour, IMO - out and out object and play no part, and the Tories vote through exactly what right-wing nonsense they want, with their vast majority. Or play along and try to have some influence on the reforms/the bill (before the Tories vote something through, with their vast majority)

Tinymcsmithy - 11 Feb 2021 12:53:51 (#16 of 82)

I may have made all of that up.

crabbyoldbat - 11 Feb 2021 12:54:19 (#17 of 82)


Tinymcsmithy - 11 Feb 2021 12:56:45 (#18 of 82)

Sorry. But it’s just so believable at the moment, when really Labour ought to be calling for mass mobilisation at the very thought of this happening.

In fact they should have been preparing for this ages ago, rather than Starmer going along with Johnson.

FleurDuMal - 11 Feb 2021 12:58:08 (#19 of 82)

“Keir Starmer releases statement expressing a cautious welcome for the reforms and offering advice and support to help guide them in the right direction”.

Oh, ffs! Does Starmer want Labour to be the opposition in perpetuity?

Tinymcsmithy - 11 Feb 2021 12:59:04 (#20 of 82)

Woooaah. Sorry, read back a post or two.

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