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Started by DesEsseintes on Feb 23, 2021 2:07:13 PM
Raleigh, Drake, and Nelson have fallen
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Peacock - 23 Feb 2021 14:10:17 (#1 of 139)

wow, someone will change their names in a few years time as well

darkhorse - 23 Feb 2021 14:13:47 (#2 of 139)

I know Nelson, but the other 2, I can never remember which one put his cloak over a puddle and which one played bowls.

I mean, both admirable things, what's wrong with remembering that historic legacy of courtesy to ladies and participation in outdoor games?

Arjuna - 23 Feb 2021 14:27:34 (#3 of 139)

Raleigh was executed, what more do they want?

elderberry - 23 Feb 2021 14:28:01 (#4 of 139)

Nelson's not the worst. The other two though - pirates, slave traders and in Raleigh's case partner in genocidal plantation in Ireland. Also associated with the wipe out of native Americans.

Arjuna - 23 Feb 2021 14:28:40 (#5 of 139)

Raleigh would not be the best example if you want to stop the kids smoking

darkhorse - 23 Feb 2021 14:29:35 (#6 of 139)

But good for encouraging cycling.

Arjuna - 23 Feb 2021 14:29:36 (#7 of 139)

The native Americans wiped out Raleigh's colony.

elderberry - 23 Feb 2021 14:30:29 (#8 of 139)

Pity it only worked short term.

darkhorse - 23 Feb 2021 14:30:33 (#9 of 139)

It's a junior school, anyway. If they insist on having "houses", why not just call them red, blue and yellow?

ReverendBlueJeans - 23 Feb 2021 14:31:26 (#10 of 139)

Raleigh's cloak was a Scottish invention, hundreds of years after the fact - Sir Walter in Kenilworth.

Arjuna - 23 Feb 2021 14:35:18 (#11 of 139)

Nelson died at the wrong time, if he had lived he may have more associated with the Royal Navy stamping down on the slave trade. It is a tad unlucky as if he had not won at Trafalgar then the bill to abolish the slave trade would not have passed.

ReverendBlueJeans - 23 Feb 2021 14:38:13 (#12 of 139)

I wonder why this is a bigger story than the estimated 12,500 migrant workers - or slayes as they effectively are - who have died in Qatar. Someone started an underpopulated thread about it earlier today. No, we shouldn't forget slavery, especially where it's still happening.

Arjuna - 23 Feb 2021 14:39:20 (#13 of 139)

Raleigh plotted to over throw the King and spent fifteen years in jail, is this what they want the kids to do? His colonies were a failure and he brought back Tobacco. There is not a lot going for him. At least Drake did sail round the world and defeated the Armarda.

Arjuna - 23 Feb 2021 14:40:09 (#14 of 139)

I wonder why this is a bigger story than the estimated 12,500 migrant workers

it is not that big, this the Hull Daily Mail

ReverendBlueJeans - 23 Feb 2021 14:40:56 (#15 of 139)

Sorry - I meant on JTT. Shoulda bin clearer.

popstar7 - 23 Feb 2021 14:43:07 (#16 of 139)

Because it’s a culture war subject and everyone’s got an opinion.

AdonisBlue - 23 Feb 2021 14:51:18 (#17 of 139)

Someone tell the town of Nelson in Lancashire it's name is no longer acceptable.

Arjuna - 23 Feb 2021 15:00:05 (#18 of 139)

I am fairly sure that a decision made by a junior school in Hull is not binding on the rest of the universe.

AdonisBlue - 23 Feb 2021 15:03:05 (#19 of 139)

I'd be more worried about living in Hull

ChankNolen - 23 Feb 2021 15:03:36 (#20 of 139)

The DM comments on their version of this story are quite funny: not only is this woke gone mad but a headmaster shouldn't have tattoos.

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