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Started by DesEsseintes on Aug 31, 2021 2:42:55 PM
Northern Ireland : where does it go from here?

“I think we all know how we got here, that Northern Ireland was sacrificed because otherwise it could have been that we weren't going to get Brexit at all."

Kate Hoey

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Dayraven - 31 Aug 2021 14:43:36 (#1 of 152)

It stays in much the same place, continential drift isn't very fast.

TigerPaws - 31 Aug 2021 15:53:56 (#2 of 152)

'People Before Profit also now has the distinction of being the only party other than Sinn Féin with elected representatives on both sides of the Irish border.

https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/the-tributary

An interesting article on the success of left parties in Ireland.

The assembly is elected by STV, while MPs are elected by FPTP. If the latter i replaced by some system of PR left NI candidates could be elected to the British parliament.

Jacob_Richter - 31 Aug 2021 16:07:08 (#3 of 152)

Deeply ironic for Hoey to whinge about this.

TigerPaws - 31 Aug 2021 16:12:31 (#4 of 152)

Macron was in Dublin recently.

Dubris - 31 Aug 2021 19:07:08 (#5 of 152)

#3 - Could it possibly be that she didn& #39;t think through the consequences of what she was campaigning for? I am shocked by that notion.

HouseOfLametta - 31 Aug 2021 20:16:35 (#6 of 152)

Still, at least we got Brexit done, and if that means selling the only one of our colonial holdings that shows any interest in being seen in public with us down the river, and running the very real risk of tragedy and bloodshed on a huge scale, I'm all for it, as long as I get my black passport and more expensive roaming charges.

bossab2 - 31 Aug 2021 20:44:34 (#7 of 152)

Black

Blue

darkhorse - 31 Aug 2021 21:23:49 (#8 of 152)

“I think we all know how we got here, that Northern Ireland was sacrificed because otherwise it could have been that we weren't going to get Brexit at all."

I'm not sure the government made that clear at the time, did it?

Is it really a good idea for Hoey to say, "Ha ha suckers, it was all for brexit, sorry you're f***ed now"?

carterbrandon - 31 Aug 2021 21:34:49 (#9 of 152)

https://images.app.goo.gl/6vdv6BwNLdNsvfyTA

GreenFuture - 31 Aug 2021 21:35:04 (#10 of 152)

The unionists sacrificed themselves, trusting the likes of her and tories.

It is LOLs.

The 6 northeast counties are going. The referendum of 100 years ago will finally be implemented and respected.

A compromise was found in GFA. The Tories carefully and deliberately fucked it.

darkhorse - 31 Aug 2021 21:36:28 (#11 of 152)

Well, it was for a good cause, ie the continuation of Conservative rule.

Tadagee - 31 Aug 2021 21:37:14 (#12 of 152)

This thread has given me a Haircut 100 earworm.

Atticus - 31 Aug 2021 21:43:53 (#13 of 152)

What referendum of 100 years ago?

GreenFuture - 31 Aug 2021 21:48:59 (#14 of 152)

Imagine not knowing that.

I hope it’s a glitch, but most people in GB lack this basic level of knowledge, which is frankly why we have no place there as part of this bastard, festering union.

Atticus - 31 Aug 2021 21:49:12 (#15 of 152)

The only vote I can find was the 1922 election in the South which returned a pro-treaty majority.

HouseOfLametta - 31 Aug 2021 22:43:40 (#16 of 152)

Is it down to Lough Neagh I fear?

elderberry - 01 Sep 2021 14:04:34 (#17 of 152)

When are the 2021 census results due for publication?

Jacob_Richter - 01 Sep 2021 14:17:35 (#18 of 152)

March 2022.

elderberry - 01 Sep 2021 14:39:01 (#19 of 152)

Might as well retire this thread until then, so.

nemo75 - 01 Sep 2021 14:54:36 (#20 of 152)

I’m hazy about the mechanisms, but don’t the people of Ireland also get a vote?

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