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Started by mikeshadow on Sep 10, 2021 10:48:53 PM
Is the Oyster card becoming redundant?

The Oyster card became very successful following its launch 18 years ago, but contactless payments are now more popular

There are now three times as many contactless pay-as-you-go bank card users as there are Oyster card users.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58197631

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hailesaladdie - 10 Sep 2021 22:55:19 (#1 of 58)

Can't use a railcard with contactless, though. You can with Oyster.

moto748 - 10 Sep 2021 23:19:59 (#2 of 58)

My son lives in London, and I remember he told me that although they were largely unnecessary these days, they were still convenient for his partner's commute, for some complicated reason I can't quite remember to do with her expenses.

Verdigris - 10 Sep 2021 23:26:14 (#3 of 58)

Contactless is ideal for a yokel visiting the metropolis. One fewer thing to sort out. I can't think of a reason why I might go to ThatLondon ever again, thoughbut.

DesEsseintes - 11 Sep 2021 00:37:16 (#4 of 58)

It's a shrinking list, things you want or need to go to a city for, I guess.

They're becoming marginal places.

Ginmonkey - 11 Sep 2021 06:49:25 (#5 of 58)

You can't put a travelcard on your debit card. Expenses are easier via Oyster as you can get a monthly pdf of your journies and use it as evidence to claim expenses.

As I only go in to the office a couple of days a week now I don't have a travelcard but pay as I go. However I prefer to use my Oyster card rather thsn my debit card, I find it easier to keep track of my travel expenses that way.

bossab2 - 11 Sep 2021 08:26:38 (#6 of 58)

+ zillions of kids have them for free travel

hailesaladdie - 11 Sep 2021 09:04:37 (#7 of 58)

FWIW, you can download statements for contactless travel if you register your card with TfL. The daily and weekly caps are supposed to be better than travelcards (though of course not for monthly or longer tickets, and there's loads of cases where you're better off with a TC).

nemo75 - 11 Sep 2021 09:42:19 (#8 of 58)

and there's loads of cases where you're better off with a TC).

Go on…

Tenesmus - 11 Sep 2021 09:58:26 (#9 of 58)

I can't think of a reason why I might go to ThatLondon ever again, thoughbut.

I think the Olympics was the last time, and may remain so.

Verdigris - 11 Sep 2021 10:00:39 (#10 of 58)

I think the Olympics was the last time, and may remain so.



I definitely wouldn't go for that. Not that there is likely to be another one in my lifetime. (see all other sporting events)

Catspyjamas17 - 11 Sep 2021 11:10:40 (#11 of 58)

I get a .pdf print out of my contactless corporate card travels on the Tube, for expenses, GM. Also my understanding is that if you make enough journeys, the system converts the fare into a Travelcard anyway. Though I have never tested that one.

Catspyjamas17 - 11 Sep 2021 11:13:15 (#12 of 58)

I have about £7.20 on my Oyster card apparently but am not quite sure where it is. So yes, pretty obsolete from where I'm standing.

helbel - 11 Sep 2021 11:20:06 (#13 of 58)

I didn’t use mine when I moved out of London because my season ticket covered the tube. Until pandemic and having not bought a season ticket again, and now I’ve dug out my Oyster card again for occasional trips into London. Use KeyGo on the trains on the way in and then Oyster on the tube. Works pretty well. I did have to contact TfL and get them to attach my old Oyster to my new TfL account as apparently my old Oyster account it was registered to disappeared at some point in the intervening years.

I prefer having an Oyster card as I don’t want to faff with my wallet or phone right by the gates because they will be buried deep inside my bag, whereas the rail card wallet will be easily accessible.

bossab2 - 11 Sep 2021 11:23:08 (#14 of 58)

I have about £7.20 on my Oyster card apparently but am not quite sure where it is. So yes, pretty obsolete from where I'm standing.

If you registered it online you can reclaim the cash.

LemonGrass - 11 Sep 2021 12:26:02 (#15 of 58)

And the five quid deposit.

You can do this at any tube/overground station as well.

JennyRad - 11 Sep 2021 12:07:18 (#16 of 58)

FWIW, you can download statements for contactless travel if you register your card with TfL. The daily and weekly caps are supposed to be better than travelcards (though of course not for monthly or longer tickets, and there's loads of cases where you're better off with a TC).



And I for one accept these statements for expense claims, btw. Obviously organisations will vary.

nemo75 - 11 Sep 2021 13:30:05 (#17 of 58)

You can do this at any tube/overground station as well.

Has to be one with a proper ticket office.

LemonGrass - 11 Sep 2021 13:55:02 (#18 of 58)

You can do it at a machine.

mikeshadow - 11 Sep 2021 16:04:45 (#19 of 58)

From the BBC linked article:

This has led to a growing colony of Oyster cards that haven't been used for at least a year - about 82m of them - and passengers' cash in the coffers of Transport for London (TfL) totalling more than £550m.

82 million cards unused for at least a year!

bossab2 - 11 Sep 2021 16:08:45 (#20 of 58)

TFLs online operations are a right pigs ear though.

I ended up having to call somebody (operating from their back bedroom) to get my credit back.

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