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Started by DesEsseintes on Sep 10, 2021 11:48:36 PM
Conference 2021

xbod used to do these - I can't do anything that good but here's a thread for the discussion of such colloquies all the same

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DesEsseintes - 10 Sep 2021 23:49:13 (#1 of 39)

some conference dates :

SNP Sep 10-13 (online)

TUC Sep 12-14 (online)

Liberal Democrat Sep 17-20 (online)

Labour Sep 25-29 (Brighton)

Conservative Oct 3-6 (Manchester)

Scottish Green Oct 10-11 (Glasgow)

Plaid Cymru Oct 15-16 (Aberystwyth)

Green Oct 22-24 (Birmingham)

CPB Nov 6-7 (Croydon)

CBI Nov 22-24 (online)

DesEsseintes - 10 Sep 2021 23:52:11 (#2 of 39)

'The three big policy themes of this conference are Independence, the 2022 Council elections and Climate Change, with COP26 taking place this year in Glasgow.'

The SNP

xDiggy - 10 Sep 2021 23:57:32 (#3 of 39)

Climate Change in Scotland? I'd have thought the chance would be a fine thing.

bossab2 - 11 Sep 2021 11:13:26 (#4 of 39)

Climate Change in Scotland?

The only one which matters

DesEsseintes - 11 Sep 2021 12:23:58 (#5 of 39)

It's a big country, it doesn't have England's population, but it takes up a fair bit of room.

DesEsseintes - 11 Sep 2021 12:54:42 (#6 of 39)

'A four-day working week could become a main plank of any new pro-independence referendum campaign after the idea was backed at SNP conference, with members declaring it would be made permanent in an independent Scotland.'

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-conference-members-back-plans-for-a-scottish-four-day-working-week-3379453

frantastic - 14 Sep 2021 11:12:55 (#7 of 39)

Ah’m no wurkin two extra days fur naebudy!

Arjuna - 14 Sep 2021 12:16:38 (#8 of 39)

Recent research by IPPR Scotland found 80 per cent of people believed that cutting their number of days at work with no loss of pay, would have a "positive effect on their wellbeing”.

only 80%?

The other 20% don't want a day off work every week on full pay?

FrankieTeardrop - 14 Sep 2021 12:47:28 (#9 of 39)

Why would it be “with no loss of pay”?

FrankieTeardrop - 14 Sep 2021 12:48:20 (#10 of 39)

If that’s the offer, I’m going to push for a two day working week with no loss of pay, and be prepared to settle on three

DesEsseintes - 14 Sep 2021 14:13:53 (#11 of 39)

You know I think you might finally be beginning to get the hang of this.

DesEsseintes - 14 Sep 2021 14:33:46 (#12 of 39)

some TUC stuff :

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep
/12/union-unite-labour-workers-sharon-graham


https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/can-unions-turn-covid-crisis-1945-moment

JennyRad - 16 Sep 2021 14:19:28 (#13 of 39)

#8 At a guess, the other 20% of people think "no one is going to be paid to do the remaining 20% of my work, so I will just end up trying to cram the same amount of stuff into less time, and consequently be more stressed." Or similar.

DesEsseintes - 16 Sep 2021 15:26:35 (#14 of 39)

Or sad thought they prefer work to what it's like at home.

Ginmonkey - 16 Sep 2021 15:26:56 (#15 of 39)

That is exactly my thought jenny. I can't see a four day week reducing the amount of work I have, I will just have to do it in four days rather than five. Which will be doable but will probably just make my days longer or busier. I am not totally convinced it would be worth it for a shorter week.

darkhorse - 16 Sep 2021 15:49:14 (#16 of 39)

Well, that's compressed hours, innit. Fingers crossed if you get a p/t contract (like I have) you can do 80% of the work of a full timer (which I do).

Ginmonkey - 16 Sep 2021 15:52:26 (#17 of 39)

Well I don't want to go part time in that I don't want a paycut.

Arjuna - 16 Sep 2021 15:53:39 (#18 of 39)

I just don't believe ths Scottish Government can magically make this happen

JennyRad - 16 Sep 2021 15:02:08 (#19 of 39)

#16 Sure, but in #8 we were told it was about working 80% of the time with no cut in pay. Crucially.

darkhorse - 16 Sep 2021 16:08:17 (#20 of 39)

Well I don't want to go part time in that I don't want a paycut

Ah, now I have properly read the cryptic quote in #8. Yes, that is a bit confusing. If it means less work for same pay, obviously it is attractive. If it means same work (so same pay) in less days, that may present a challenge.

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