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Started by FrankieTeardrop on Oct 2, 2021 8:16:12 PM
Brexitalypse Now

Where the chickens would come home to roost, but for a lack of HGV drivers to get them there

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FredDee - 02 Oct 2021 20:24:49 (#1 of 1055)

the new term for Project Fear.

Verdigris - 02 Oct 2021 21:17:51 (#2 of 1055)

<I think I may finally have been accepted by the community of wrongmos and assorted cunts>



<dabs cheek>

DesEsseintes - 03 Oct 2021 08:07:32 (#3 of 1055)

'My guess, after this week, is that the moment when the public begins to stop believing is approaching and faster than anyone thinks.'

(Will Hutton)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct
/03/panic-at-the-pumps-could-herald-brave-new-brexit-order-i-have-my-doubts

kvelertak - 03 Oct 2021 08:06:23 (#4 of 1055)

Blummin optimist...

Oldbathrobe1 - 03 Oct 2021 10:39:15 (#5 of 1055)

<I think I may finally have been accepted by the community of wrongmos and assorted cunts>



As a well known assorted cunt, may I say 'welcome'.

Good stuff about Britain, part whatever it is:

Pink Floyd, fish and chips, Benjamin Zephaniah speaking Chinese to the librarian in the British library, Benjamin Zephaniah turning down an OBE, Shelly's Ozymandias, Tennyson's Now Sleeps The Crimson Petal, David obviously Attenborough, Michael Palin.

I wonder if Chank could do a similar list for the French...

kvelertak - 03 Oct 2021 09:41:44 (#6 of 1055)

He's kept all Marine LePen's love letters, will that do?

ReverendBlueJeans - 03 Oct 2021 10:52:49 (#7 of 1055)

So, the general view among thinking people is that Brexit is a rubbish idea and everything predicted is coming to pass.

When will the Labour Party catch up?

Intowntonight - 03 Oct 2021 10:59:33 (#8 of 1055)

The Labour Party cant catch up, as much as its saner end would love to:

too many Corbynistas (and worse) wet dreaming of a National Command Economy.

tasselhoff - 03 Oct 2021 11:02:05 (#9 of 1055)

Isn't it more about Starmer being too scared of losing votes to put the boot in over Brexit?

ReverendBlueJeans - 03 Oct 2021 11:03:19 (#10 of 1055)

There are plenty of votes to be gained, including ones currently lost, by putting the boot etc.

nemo75 - 03 Oct 2021 11:04:09 (#11 of 1055)

Labour’s position on brexit makes them just as culpable as the tories.

DesEsseintes - 03 Oct 2021 11:37:06 (#12 of 1055)

The main problem you've got as ever is the PLP. There is probably a pro-rejoin majority in the membership, same as there is a pro-proportional representation majority, and the unions are probably persuadable - they changed direction on Europe before. The 'moderates' in the PLP aren't really - the only thing that would change their mind is the Tories deciding to dump Brexit.

Oldbathrobe1 - 03 Oct 2021 11:44:15 (#13 of 1055)

There is probably a pro-rejoin majority in the membership



I can't imagine that's on the table. Customs Union yes, EU membership no. Nobody wantes tbe Faragistas back, shitting up rational debates.

breakfast - 03 Oct 2021 11:53:32 (#14 of 1055)

@jrhopkin

OK, so let's just fact check this a little shall we? EU membership is a cause of Britain's low wage low productivity equilibrium, and curtailing EU migration will improve both, according to the PM.

Twitter thread:

https://twitter.com/jrhopkin/status/14446011178459
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Shadrack22 - 03 Oct 2021 11:54:06 (#15 of 1055)

Isn't it more about Starmer being too scared of losing votes to put the boot in over Brexit?

There isn’t much mileage in that at the moment. Sporadic queues for petrol aside, life for most people in the UK continues to be pretty much the same as it was five years ago.

DesEsseintes - 03 Oct 2021 11:54:59 (#16 of 1055)

I can't imagine that's on the table.

Not immediately perhaps but rejoin you will find easier to sell people than remain or half-rejoin it seems to me.

fogsake - 03 Oct 2021 11:57:01 (#17 of 1055)

life for most people in the UK continues to be pretty much the same as it was five years ago.

That is untrue.

ReverendBlueJeans - 03 Oct 2021 11:59:57 (#18 of 1055)

There isn’t much mileage in that at the moment. Sporadic queues for petrol aside, life for most people in the UK continues to be pretty much the same as it was five years ago.

You forgot 'it says here', Shadders. If ever such a statement was untrue, by the way, it's most untrue now.

DesEsseintes - 03 Oct 2021 12:04:36 (#19 of 1055)

What Blair would have done I think is say look we were right to leave then, the relationship was unsatisfactory, and we're right to rejoin now, on the same terms as everyone else, things have changed.

tasselhoff - 03 Oct 2021 12:07:01 (#20 of 1055)

The same terms as everyone else? No chance.

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