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Verdigris - 17 Nov 2021 10:28:03 (#1 of 1775)

Come and get your shiny new thread!

(Bring out your dead whilst you're about it)

dottie30 - 17 Nov 2021 10:35:32 (#2 of 1775)

On my ZOE app, the line has started to track upwards again. I'm booking my booster on Monday as soon as the website allows.

GreenFuture - 17 Nov 2021 11:23:23 (#3 of 1775)

It will have already been talked about, but journalists really have a responsibility to pick up the ball from the latest Private Eye investigation into profiteering and corruption.

I said in early lockdown that while folk were scrumming for bogroll was the exact time the elite were stitching up £100ms on Zoom calls.

This is who Tories and their friends are, grifting while 1,000s suffocate long, slow deaths

hailesaladdie - 17 Nov 2021 11:32:34 (#4 of 1775)

Recovering from Covid now (second infection). Wasn't too bad, thankfully, no doubt thanks to the vaccines.

We're in a particularly high instance area (~700/100k). It's just exploded in my son's school. Anecdotally, local healthcare workers are seeing a huge rise in teachers, TAs and nursery workers among hospital admissions right now. My son's teacher is off with Covid (she's CEV) and my wife (also a teacher) is CV, so I'm getting rather worried.

Verdigris - 17 Nov 2021 11:45:57 (#5 of 1775)

Haven't looked at the infection map for a while. But both my local area and Ceredigion have gone back to blue, after months of enpurplement.

Natascha - 17 Nov 2021 12:18:02 (#6 of 1775)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov
/17/south-korea-covid-uk-pandemic?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other


Worth a read.

ArriveAlive - 17 Nov 2021 12:18:39 (#7 of 1775)

Get Well Soon haile, and hope your family stay unaffected.

After peaking near the end of September (beginning of half term week) and then falling back almost to the late summer low, my Cases in my District spreadsheet has been tracking upwards again since the beginning of this week.

I was at a not particularly distanced and almost entirely unmasked graduation ceremony (held in an indoors sports arena) last Wednesday. A week later and LFTs still negative, thank goodness.

xDiggy - 17 Nov 2021 12:22:35 (#8 of 1775)

Get vaccinated and get on with our lives, all else is a futile struggle against the unavoidable.

There, that's my contribution to the new thread.

Natascha - 17 Nov 2021 12:25:26 (#9 of 1775)

The South Korean strategy in a country of similar size to ours has resulted in under 4,000 dead and no loss to the economy, really. Our strategy has resulted in 150 000 (roughly) dead and an economy running scared of rampant inflation.

FleurDuMal - 17 Nov 2021 12:38:30 (#10 of 1775)

There, that's my contribution to the new thread.

So identical to your contribution to the old thread then.

xDiggy - 17 Nov 2021 12:40:39 (#11 of 1775)

The fundamentals haven't changed. I'm sure it'll be matched by many, many posts saying we must do this or that to limit cases regardless of how effective that will be or what the long-term object is supposed to be.

Ginmonkey - 17 Nov 2021 12:50:57 (#12 of 1775)

#6 contact tracing and support for isolation is key. However that article is very selective, some of S Korean response would be seen here as possibly breaching human rights and I think might have been illegal under our privacy/data protection laws. - eg posting bank and credit card transactions, tracking people via their mobiles etc..

RosyLovelady - 17 Nov 2021 13:07:03 (#13 of 1775)

I'm getting my booster on Friday. Hoping for the cool one.

tasselhoff - 17 Nov 2021 13:07:44 (#14 of 1775)

Pfizer? Me too.

hailesaladdie - 17 Nov 2021 13:08:02 (#15 of 1775)

Sputnik

bignosebignose - 17 Nov 2021 13:10:14 (#16 of 1775)

some of S Korean response would be seen here as possibly breaching human rights and I think might have been illegal under our privacy/data protection laws. - eg posting bank and credit card transactions, tracking people via their mobiles etc.. I suppose one question is whether we think it's worth over 100,000 deaths to have those laws in circumstances like this. Or indeed if a pandemic turns up in a few years with a 25% mortality rate.

RosyLovelady - 17 Nov 2021 13:12:00 (#17 of 1775)

Yes, tass. I like the idea of a bit of Phiz.

phantlers - 17 Nov 2021 13:15:14 (#18 of 1775)

Had my phiz last Sunday. Sore arm but on retiring it felt like I could feel the venom coursing through my body. Raised BP, soreness in limbs and joints.

I took ibuprofen the following morning and again mid afternoon and went to work as usual.

Ginmonkey - 17 Nov 2021 13:23:37 (#19 of 1775)

#16 I agree. I am not sure of the balance myself but just pointing out that when people like Prof Shridar talk about going hard on contact tracing and isolation in countries like S Korea they are often coy about what it actually involves in practice.

mikeshadow - 17 Nov 2021 13:24:35 (#20 of 1775)

First case was two years ago today.

The first case of someone suffering from Covid-19 can be traced back to 17 November (2019), according to media reports on unpublished Chinese government data.

The report, in the South China Morning Post, said Chinese authorities had identified at least 266 people who contracted the virus last year and who came under medical surveillance, and the earliest case was 17 November – weeks before authorities announced the emergence of the new virus.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/firs
t-covid-19-case-happened-in-november-china-government-records-show-report

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