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Started by Arjuna on Nov 17, 2021 6:49:42 PM
Insulate Britain activists jailed

Insulate Britain protesters have been jailed for blocking the M25 in a legal first, as the judge said she had to protect the rights of "ordinary members of the public".

The nine climate activists were handed prison sentences of between three and six months on Tuesday for breaching an injunction by blocking the motorway during the morning rush hour on October 8.

It is believed to be the first time that non-violent protesters have been imprisoned for contempt of court for breaching an injunction, with legal experts predicting it will lead to an increase in government departments and companies applying for court orders to deal with campaigners

Arjuna - 17 Nov 2021 19:17:10 (#1 of 171)

Not popular people

But judges jailing protesters without a trial by jury is a bit worrying

mingmong - 17 Nov 2021 19:32:51 (#2 of 171)

The media narrative is generally sympathetic to the irrate thwarted motorists rather than the Insulate Britain protestors

However, it is the motorists (as ever) who are behaving like spoilt children.

When did you ever see a pedestrian behave like that? Imagine the scenario. You are walking to work. There is a demonstration at the end of the street that requires you to take a slightly longer diversion. What would your reaction be? I'm guessing at most you might express some mild irritation. Probably just shrug your shoulders and carry on with your journey.

But put the same person behind the wheel and present them with the same scenario. 9 times out of 10 you'd get a reaction that looks more like a psychotic breakdown than a proportionate response. Voices will be raised, often to an almost hysterical pitch. There will be finger jabbing, swearing, bulging eyes. Threats of violence.

What is it about being behind the wheel that turns otherwise normal people into total, utter cunts? That is the real question the media should be asking.

ReverendBlueJeans - 17 Nov 2021 19:34:01 (#3 of 171)

Jailing is what they wanted, to be fair. A few weeks ago they were whingeing that there was some sort of conspiracy not to jail them.

Arjuna - 17 Nov 2021 19:37:46 (#4 of 171)

I think they were right. The government did not want to jail them and spoil the eco party.

Problem is the prize for being right is being jailed later

1MELSM - 17 Nov 2021 19:39:39 (#5 of 171)

They've been arrested repeatedly in some cases, got warnings along the way as to their behaviour, and finally have been given prison sentences. They've antagonised people, not just ones in road traffic, and seemed blasé about it.

DesEsseintes - 17 Nov 2021 19:40:21 (#6 of 171)

That's not the worst report of a political trial. Good on the Telegraph for putting "ordinary members of the public" in quotation marks anyway. Silly thing of her to say.

Verdigris - 17 Nov 2021 19:40:26 (#7 of 171)

It's funny how thick racists and Piers Corbyn never get locked up, though.

phantlers - 17 Nov 2021 19:42:58 (#8 of 171)

Pedestrians have a good deal more leeway in choosing an alternative route. Blocking a one way road is more like kettling pedestrians than simply blocking rhe pavement. People tend to dislike and react angrily to being kettled.

mingmong - 17 Nov 2021 19:51:20 (#9 of 171)

Fair point phantlers. But I still maintain that motorists (particularly car drivers) think and behave like spoilt children.

I dont exempt myself from this either. I too become a cunt when I am behind the wheel.

Why is this I wonder? What is it that creates this hair-trigger sense of anger and entitlement?

mingmong - 17 Nov 2021 19:55:35 (#10 of 171)

Imagine being on a bus stuck in that same situation. Yes you would feel frustrated. You might even feel angry. Would you even consider getting out and jabbing your finger in the protestors' face?

I can't imagine doing so as a pedestrian or public transport user. As a motorist, it's all too likely.

solomongursky - 17 Nov 2021 20:00:33 (#11 of 171)

darkhorse - 17 Nov 2021 20:15:07 (#12 of 171)

Imagine being on a bus stuck in that same situation

Yeah, but you’d get off the bus, walk around the protesters and wait at the next bus stop.

I’m sure there’s no flaw in this plan.

ZimAgain - 17 Nov 2021 20:23:05 (#13 of 171)

#9 - What is it that creates this hair-trigger sense of anger and entitlement?

Maybe it's being in a protective shell of metal and glass which allows you, and makes you expect, to be able to get from A to B faster, but also restricts your manoeuverability when your path is blocked.

Your expectations have been thwarted. And some other cunt is to blame.

Verdigris - 17 Nov 2021 20:26:59 (#14 of 171)

Walt Disney may have been an anti-Semitic cunt but he knew a thing or two. I can remember being shown a cartoon, in primary school, around 1960, called "Mr Walker and Mr Wheeler", about driver selfishness/invincibility, so the road-rage/disregard for pedestrians/cyclists/climate protester thing is not a new phenomenon.

mingmong - 17 Nov 2021 20:28:37 (#15 of 171)

Either way, driving in cities like London is SAFC and should be discouraged.

Marginally more sympathy for the drivers stuck on the M25, but not much.

The protestors are right and we all know it. But they confront us with our guilty but also cherished little foibles. The prospect of having these things taken away is as enraging to us as the prospect of switching off the router is to a computer-game-addicted 10 year old.

phantlers - 17 Nov 2021 20:32:20 (#16 of 171)

I suspect rural dwellers have a different relationship with their motor cars than do city folk.

One that is more dependent.

machiavelli - 17 Nov 2021 22:33:14 (#17 of 171)

When your journey is halted for enough time, your day is fucked about. You've missed a meeting, some teacher or nursery worker is sat with your kid and looking at their watch, you've missed a medical appointment. It's no less upsetting in a car and being in a car doesn't make you deserve it.

Arjuna - 17 Nov 2021 22:44:38 (#18 of 171)

Mr Taylor said: ‘If you send me away to prison, ten people will step forward in my place. If you send each of us away, 100 people will step forward and take our places. If you send 100 of us away, 1,000 people will step forward to take our place.’

Or maybe those 100 people will think hmmm .. jail.

Gotout - 17 Nov 2021 22:49:43 (#19 of 171)

By all means voice your opinion, but when you try to force it on others by obstructing their passage then you destroy any sympathy that you might have.

Arjuna - 17 Nov 2021 22:51:46 (#20 of 171)

It's a peculiar campaign, a single demand that is reasonable but with tactics that really piss people off.

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