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Started by indlovubill on Jan 1, 2022 8:04:44 PM
Brexit Latest - EU Speed Limiter Law To Be Applied In The UK

This will really piss the Brexiteers off and no I'm not against speed limiters, I already use one.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1543484/new-eu-speed-limiter-tools-driving-rule-change

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Tomnoddy - 01 Jan 2022 20:11:55 (#1 of 92)

The fucking things don't even limit speed. They just play a tone to warn drivers a few seconds after they speed in the limited zone. What on earth use is that?

indlovubill - 01 Jan 2022 20:21:12 (#2 of 92)

What on earth use is that?

Stops you getting speeding tickets, essential in places such as London where the limit seems to randomly change from 20 to 30 or out in country where the limit can change from 40 to 50 to 60 over a couple of miles. Yes there are signs but if it's dark, pissing down with rain and you don't know the road it's handy to have a warning. And of course when you know the road you can switch the thing off.

AdonisBlue - 01 Jan 2022 20:24:57 (#3 of 92)

Are 20mph speed limits enforced by camera in That London? They aren't round us, the lowest camera enforced is 30mph.

HoHoHoff - 01 Jan 2022 20:34:19 (#4 of 92)

What prompts them to beep? A GPS? If so, why not just use a... GPS instead. It shows your speed and the colour changes when you go slightly over the limit and again when in ticket-territory.

indlovubill - 01 Jan 2022 20:43:09 (#5 of 92)

What prompts them to beep? A GPS?

Yes GPS. On my car the speed limit is displayed on the satnav but so small you have to take your eyes off the road to read it. Much easier to have an audible warning and you can switch it off if it's getting on your nerves.

barkis - 01 Jan 2022 21:00:27 (#6 of 92)

From when I worked in vehicle tracking I know there are problems establishing the speed limit from GPS when roads with different limits run close together.

indlovubill - 01 Jan 2022 21:03:23 (#7 of 92)

Yes I've noticed that but the device seems to always go for the lower limit. Don't know if that's intentional or coincidental.

TheExcession - 01 Jan 2022 21:20:28 (#8 of 92)

"out in country where the limit can change from 40 to 50 to 60 over a couple of miles."

And where the locals drive at a consistent 40mph regardless of what the fucking speed limit is.

Tagyourit - 01 Jan 2022 21:31:24 (#9 of 92)

My Volvo already does this, it displays the speed limit which flashes if you exceed it, after 30 seconds it stops flashing. It's pretty bright as it uses a combination of GPS and an onboard camera which reads signs (It also alerts me to other road signs such as school crossings) it also warns of speed cameras.

Verdigris - 01 Jan 2022 21:36:15 (#10 of 92)

My sat-nav does this, but it does depend on the database being regularly updated. Worst offenders are temporary restrictions on motorway roadworks that are not cancelled 10 years after the works have finished.

TheExcession - 01 Jan 2022 21:43:34 (#11 of 92)

It does seem sensible. There have been plenty of times I've come out of one road and joined another and been confronted with speed cameras not knowing what the actual speed limit is (and had to make an educated guess whilst crossing my fingers) since the speed limit of the road I was joining wasn't displayed anywhere.

Will the ones in BMWs and Audis only beep if they go double the actual limit? (since they have their own special rules, apparently)

AdonisBlue - 01 Jan 2022 21:46:12 (#12 of 92)

But isn't a sat nav/phone that beeps as you approach a speed camera very different than something that automatically slams on the brakes when you do the same?

fogsake - 01 Jan 2022 21:47:33 (#13 of 92)

Got an ancient gps somewhere. When I was going over the speed limit it made a cavalry charge bugle call.

TheExcession - 01 Jan 2022 21:49:44 (#14 of 92)

From the article: "However, after industry pressure, the new technology will play an audio warning a few moments after the vehicle exceeds the speed limit."

AdonisBlue - 01 Jan 2022 21:54:46 (#15 of 92)

Oh well that's good then. Sounds like a good idea to me.

I hate being out of control of car, don't even like Cruise Control for that reason.

indlovubill - 01 Jan 2022 22:05:49 (#16 of 92)

it also warns of speed cameras.

Safety cameras surely! My car was made in Germany and doesn't have camera alerts, though in Germany there is the compensation of roads where you can legally do >200kph.

AdonisBlue - 01 Jan 2022 22:14:21 (#17 of 92)

Yes everything in Germany is superior. Every once in a while they decide they must help the rest of Europe become just as good as them.

Verdigris - 01 Jan 2022 22:17:21 (#18 of 92)

Well, they've got Greens in the government, so mustn't grumble.

HoHoHoff - 01 Jan 2022 22:17:53 (#19 of 92)

I used to drive on the Autobahn nearly half the distance to work (so about 250km) twice every weekend in a Citroen C3.

Annoyed by having a hair dryer for an engine I bought a Beemer and did a couple of years of the journey using that instead. So I could bomb it along at over 200kmh where allowed.

But my best ever time was only 5 minutes faster than in the C3.

TheExcession - 01 Jan 2022 22:33:53 (#20 of 92)

I've given up trying to fathom some of the features in mine, largely because you can't drive along whilst reading the manual since there isn't a pause function on reality and some of them involve focusing on tiny screens whilst you scroll through things.

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