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Started by MestangloMan on 16-Nov-2016 13:46:19
Bill and Hillary Clinton, 2016 into the Future

There have been a few reports coming out in the last several days, post-November 8, 2016, that Bill's camp, if that's the right word, and Hillary's camp had different views re: the process, sometimes sharp as a tack. They seem to have exploded on the night of the election. Nonetheless, afterwards Bill and Hillary took a stroll through the natural sights of New York, and Bill took a picture of Hillary smiling with a young mother who supported her efforts, showing the world that there is life after the somewhat dizzying unpredictability of USA politics.

What is in store for what used to be America's couple?

HerrWalrus - 16 Nov 2016 13:49:09 (#1 of 1611)

Great journeys on Amtrak. A new television series.

KleinesArschloch - 16 Nov 2016 13:57:30 (#2 of 1611)

It was a touching photo - but staged.

Facebook user Margot Gerster published a photographer of herself and Hillary Clinton on a hiking trail - a supposed random encounter. Gerster knows Clintn very well, having been a fund raiser for her.

MestangloMan - 16 Nov 2016 14:02:27 (#3 of 1611)

I was glad to read that William Jefferson Clinton took it, Kleines. There have been reports that Bill was a lonely and often overlooked person during the campaign. There are stories coming out that he was so pissed off at Hillary's consultants he threw his cell phone towards the Arkansas River from his apartment.

They've had at least three elections as a couple which they lost and which left scars and, yet, are all part of the human educational structure. Hopefully they will get lots of Grand kiddy hugs in.

virgil5 - 17 Nov 2016 05:16:58 (#4 of 1611)

What's in store for the Clintons now?

They'll take a long break to recuperate. Maybe get some medical help or therapy if needed.

Their friends will gather around and be supportive. Plans will be made from lessons learned.

They're both pushing 70. It's amazing they're not in worse shape, considering what constant campaigning does to you these days.

If they've become more alienated from each other, as the (ghoulish) rumor vampires would hope, this will probably draw them more together again.

They'll continue to work for change, like before.

TRaney - 17 Nov 2016 08:03:21 (#5 of 1611)

A change in their bank balance? Eh?

virgil5 - 17 Nov 2016 10:01:21 (#6 of 1611)

Probably. Think about it: scads of Dems wanting to know what went wrong. Lots of opportunities for speaking engagement fees there.

The Clintons will be in demand :-)

MestangloMan - 17 Nov 2016 12:03:42 (#7 of 1611)

I surely don't think one can count B and H out, although it's a safe bet they will never see the WH as a couple except possibly through Chelsea. She did show that a First Lady can have her own separate, political career and push for that Big Tent gig. I'm sure many others will be inspired by those efforts.

virgil5 - 17 Nov 2016 12:19:49 (#8 of 1611)

The WH is over-rated.

The security was bad enough when Obama was there that they woke up to somebody wandering around in there, and it wasn't Bill Clinton.

Trump doesn't want to live there.

It's on its way to becoming just another cheap roadside US attraction.

Meanwhile, this election will mean lots more donation to the Clinton Foundation from people now waiting like vultures on the sidelines for the inevitable Trump screw up.

MestangloMan - 17 Nov 2016 12:28:03 (#9 of 1611)

Trump doesn't want to live there.

It's on its way to becoming just another cheap roadside US attraction.

I'm not sure of what to believe given much of zee Press got this sooooo wrong. However, my views for the last 20 odd years have been that the office and house are majestic, but the people occupying it are not or lose that aspect due to other things. We'll see in four years time who are and are not the staunch Trump loyalists.

And, yes, I'm a huge supporter of number 22, er, not the President, but the amendment.

virgil5 - 17 Nov 2016 12:37:06 (#10 of 1611)

Trump is going to screw up. We just don't know how bigly it's going to be yet.

From the looks of his cabinet so far, it could be most Bigly indeed :-)

I give it until April or May. April is Hitler's birthday so that looks good.

machiavelli - 17 Nov 2016 12:40:24 (#11 of 1611)

I wonder if the speaking fees will drop now that she's out of the loop. Still, those two should have enough salted away.

virgil5 - 17 Nov 2016 12:43:13 (#12 of 1611)

Drop? You've got to be kidding.

Now they've got all the inside dope that donors will want to pay for.

MestangloMan - 17 Nov 2016 12:57:33 (#13 of 1611)

Now they've got all the inside dope that donors will want to pay for.

You could be correct, but, Christ, they have to admit they lost first. Bill seems the only one willing to do that, and you know it's tough.

virgil5 - 17 Nov 2016 13:18:13 (#14 of 1611)

If they were going to contest, we'd be waiting for the Supreme Court right now, like we were with Gore v Bush 2000.

No, they got it over so they could laugh all the way to the bank.

MestangloMan - 17 Nov 2016 13:22:58 (#15 of 1611)

A very interesting point. Look, as I have said, staged or no, I like that pic. I like that Number 42, William Jefferson Clinton, took it.

I like the feel of it.

You could be on point, Cuz.

MestangloMan - 17 Nov 2016 13:24:36 (#16 of 1611)

However, there have been reports that he threw his cell phone from the top of his penthouse suite towards the Arkansas River he was so pissed during the final day of the election, thinking that his J the Baptist warnings were not heeded(And he is Southern Baptist, warts and all. Let us not forget that :^).

But we know he can move in more positive directions on a New York dime.

virgil5 - 17 Nov 2016 13:30:34 (#17 of 1611)

I rarely do, but I bought a copy of The New York Post the other day because it was such a hilarious historic artifact.

The cover had a picture of "kindly old Uncle Donald" with the words DONT BE AFRAID

ah hee hee hee guffaw hee yuck its a time to worry but what the fuck :-)

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MestangloMan - 17 Nov 2016 13:33:02 (#19 of 1611)

To paraphrase my late Hoosier friend of long ago and often far away, even if it was only about 45 minutes from my house that we did our craziness:

The Price of Orville Redenbacher just went up

And your old lady just went down.

The Establishment is in tatters and that isn't always bad. Tell Lincoln people are having it tough today.


MestangloMan - 17 Nov 2016 13:39:50 (#20 of 1611)

Anyway, about these proposed databases of Muslims...

He was the only one willing to criticize the entire Duopoly re; our dangerous M.E. policies, not just Bush 43, not just Obama 44 or Hillary, for that matter, who pushed for the invasion of Libya, according to Barack to the Atlantic Mag.

Luckily I studied the Koran and bits of Islam prior to thinking of conversion, which Muslims call reversion. I flirted with that faith and came back to Allah and His Son.

Best decision I evah made. Islam is a real, world religion with millions and millions of adherents. Those who don't believe or are nervous have to come to terms with it at some stage. Not all believers are ISIS or even the more ardent Hez followers.

A work in progress which I have been watching hard since 86 and Lebanon and the first Intifada. Donny will have to deal with the world.

Plus I still wish Dylan Roof could have an old fashioned rope around his neck. Won't happen because people prefer life in prison to old fashioned justice.

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