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Started by MestangloMan on Jun 6, 2017 1:01:02 AM
Is Governor Cuomo, D-New York, talking of Seceding from The UNION?

I'm seeing some wild and crazy stuff on the board of late. Just asking. Anyone who now lives in NY or has lived there in the past, if you have any info, very interested.

Now, if you want to talk about Obamacare or Immigration, there are other places. This is The Blue State Secession Thread.


upgoerfive - 06 Jun 2017 01:14:57 (#1 of 871)

Oh, he's the dolt who tried his best to wreck USENET because of "Will Nobody Think Of The Children!!!!!", isn't he?

Arsehole. Or Idiot.

Or possibly Idiotic Arsehole.

Safely ignored.

MestangloMan - 06 Jun 2017 01:24:29 (#2 of 871)

Well, upgoerfive, he's the governor of one of our 50 states. I'm seeing a bit of pro-secession rhetoric from some folks who live in the blue states on the board of late. I'm simply wondering if its filtered upwards to the governor of NY.

I'm not seeing anything like that on the net, btw. I am seeing grievances by New Yorkers to secede, not from the USA, but from the state of NY. Plus Mayor Lindsay of NYC tried that years and years ago. His advisor, if my memory is in tact, was former Sec of Defense Panetta.

Didn't happen.

Ebadlun - 06 Jun 2017 01:34:22 (#3 of 871)

Er, is there like a link, or context, or something?

virgil5 - 06 Jun 2017 01:36:36 (#4 of 871)

Quite amusing you think my speculation on secession means Cuomo (or anybody else) is speculating seriously in that direction.

Thanks! :-)

Just wondering: Why are you so worried? Do you think your evidently new heart throb (you touchingly always call him "Donny" and never admit he does anything wrong) has actually created a situation where Democrats (or anybody else) are seriously talking about secession?

Thanks again (for the ludicrous 'amusement' value of it) if so!

virgil5 - 06 Jun 2017 01:37:13 (#5 of 871)

More of my speculation:

Of all the unlikely US secession scenarios, the most likely unlikeliness scenario would be NY and CA (the states won by Hillary Clinton and two of the largest contributors of tax revenue for the country) deciding they don't need a US federal union as it exists, if it's contributed to the rise of an ignorant demagogue like Trump, who, by his actions, would seem to be ignoring progress in the rights gained by the people of the US, in some sort of hare-brained intentional or unintentional attempt to return to the type of monarchy that had G.Washington refuse forcibly several times the offers by the more Tory-inclined in the post Revolution days before the shape of the new country could be seen.

<more to come>

MestangloMan - 06 Jun 2017 01:38:10 (#6 of 871)

Well, yeah, the Presidency is the context and certain people not liking the person in the office on any given day. One such President suffered an actual Civil War or as close as our nation has seen to one, plus his life. His name was Lincoln.

The current question has to do with some rhetoric I have seen off the board in the earlier part of the year, but filtering into the board. Probably a shitload of hot air, Ebadlun. But I'm wondering if it's being taken in and spun out by Andrew Cuomo.

MestangloMan - 06 Jun 2017 01:40:24 (#7 of 871)

Why are you so worried?

Because, number one, I'm trying to keep distractions of a political kind to a bare minimum, if possible.

Number 2, there are lunatics in the nation on any given day from any number of duopolistic directions. And they may have some important people's ears. It's an info thread.

upgoerfive - 06 Jun 2017 01:41:52 (#8 of 871)

Well, based on his pronouncements concerning my particular area of expertise, I'd say he's certainly stupid and uninformed enough to want to do something as deranged as that.

Ebadlun - 06 Jun 2017 01:43:13 (#9 of 871)

This thread is mad and I'm sorry I went in it.

upgoerfive - 06 Jun 2017 01:43:51 (#10 of 871)

I've been drinking - what's your excuse?

MestangloMan - 06 Jun 2017 01:44:48 (#11 of 871)

Do you think your evidently new heart throb (you touchingly always call him "Donny" and never admit he does anything wrong) has actually created a situation where Democrats (or anybody else) are seriously talking about secession?

Do I think Presidents create delusions of political secession in some people historically in the USA?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes

Surely. Definitely. Yes.

Has there been a successful secession from the USA since 1789?


MestangloMan - 06 Jun 2017 01:46:15 (#12 of 871)

Do I think people are crazy to talk of such things seriously?


Will I call them on it?

Yep. Anyway, so it's another delusion by some anti-Trumpers.


upgoerfive - 06 Jun 2017 01:47:33 (#13 of 871)

... though clearly I've not been drinking enough.

MestangloMan - 06 Jun 2017 01:51:17 (#14 of 871)

Thanks again (for the ludicrous 'amusement' value of it) if so!

Well, yeah, NY and California have huge economies, dude. That's all any political society needs.

And the rest of the country will end up as...

Somalia, except with a massive military and Lincoln in the rear view mirror.

Cuz, have a grand day in your political fantasies. More than entitled.

virgil5 - 06 Jun 2017 01:51:50 (#15 of 871)

So, in other words, you wanted to start a thread linking Cuomo to some sort of US secession movement in order to make me look crazy because I had the nerve to criticize your decision to vote for Donald J Trump "Donny"?

The nerve of me! What was I thinking!

MestangloMan - 06 Jun 2017 01:52:46 (#16 of 871)

It was either Trump or Killary.

Very glad in my decision. She is now a laughing stock, blaming all of her failures on Russia.

Great eve. Plus you admitting that the Duopoly is a piece of Shit.

Priceless. Thanks, cuz.

virgil5 - 06 Jun 2017 01:54:47 (#17 of 871)

Dude: you actually voted for Trump.

You're going to be stuck with that :-)

Trying to make me look nuts is only going to make you look nuttier.


brooklyn - 06 Jun 2017 01:56:56 (#18 of 871)

<<Is Governor Cuomo, D-New York, talking of Seceding from The UNION? >>


I hope that ends the thread.

MestangloMan - 06 Jun 2017 01:57:11 (#19 of 871)

Dude: you actually voted for Trump.

There have been times my vote landed in the direction of an actual president:

Reagan in 84. Bush in 00. Obama in 08. Trump in 2016.

The sad reality is many of your compadres put more placement on that sort of thing than on actual policies of presidents they like, something I never have done. If you think that is sane, run with it.

Europe awaits thee...


MestangloMan - 06 Jun 2017 01:58:42 (#20 of 871)

OK, so some folks have political fantasies of secession, in many sections of the nation.

One such set of fantasies led to America's bloodiest war.

OK, thanks for the answers.

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