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Started by AdrianNTierney on Dec 16, 2018 4:42:05 PM
Cats: You POV and Interesting 'Tails'

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/14/realestate/fera
l-cats-working-cat.html?


So here's a story about feral cat control efforts in NYC. But check out the comments! Share your stories about cats, feral cats, rats, mice, hawks, owls, and songbirds.

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thisonehasalittlehat - 16 Dec 2018 16:43:28 (#1 of 54)

I hate cats.

AdrianNTierney - 16 Dec 2018 16:46:00 (#2 of 54)

For many years, we 'supported' a series of orange feral cats, all named "Sam". Mice tributes were received and acknowledged, but no songbirds directly.

Although a wren once flew directly into out patio door, killing itself. Before we could pick it up, Sam got it and deposited it on out steps.

AdrianNTierney - 16 Dec 2018 16:46:48 (#3 of 54)

My partner has always insisted that people who hate cats are, at heart, misogynists as well.

Make of that what you will.

HoHoHoff - 16 Dec 2018 16:56:19 (#4 of 54)

We found an offering of half a bird on a living room rug yesterday, which was thoughtful and seasonal.

Garden - 16 Dec 2018 17:10:12 (#5 of 54)

Oh, you POV you.

HoHoHoff - 16 Dec 2018 17:22:17 (#6 of 54)

what does POV mean?

Garden - 16 Dec 2018 17:22:49 (#7 of 54)

Point of View

brooklyn - 16 Dec 2018 22:51:13 (#8 of 54)

it is fairly common knowledge that raccoons have come back to NYC. I'm not sure anyone is enthusiastic about that. but what we did like: a few years ago the raptors returned! we had falcons and hawks, in places like brooklyn's prospect park. they were lovely -- and how better to keep the rats in their place!

alas. the raptors are gone. it seems that rats who died from rat poison were chosen by the birds as easy meat. and the poison then killed the birds as well.

Garden - 16 Dec 2018 23:22:29 (#9 of 54)

Are you sure about that, Brook, or is it just urban legend? People who are trying to eradicate rats (and cats and rabbits) are usually very careful about the poisons they use. What's commonly used to kill rats doesn't hurt birds, who have a different blood chemistry than the rats do.

virgil5 - 16 Dec 2018 23:45:03 (#10 of 54)

10 well deducted points. The logic trail:

"Wow. What a boring thread."

"Who starts threads like that?"

"Doesn't get much more boring than watching the leaves fall off the trees."

Bingo

brooklyn - 17 Dec 2018 01:01:15 (#11 of 54)

alas, G. it seems far from only legendary.

http://www.nycaudubon.org/issues-of-concern/protecting-raptors

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/nyregion/rat-poison-is-found-in-bodies-of-3-dead-hawks.html

http://thevillager.com/villager_240/parkhawlkscoul
dbe.html

Garden - 17 Dec 2018 01:35:35 (#12 of 54)

Interesting, Brook.

Thing is, it's sort of a tradeoff. Do you want your raptors to die because they got poisoned by rats or do you want them to disappear because the rats ate their eggs?

There are poisons that can be used safely - we're building back the native sea bird population using them.

Agaliarept - 17 Dec 2018 09:13:27 (#13 of 54)

My grandfather was stationed at a US air base here in the UK when he was an airman.

Family legend tells that it was him who introduced a bunch of feral cats to the base to help with their rat problem.

Fast forward a few decades and the base is now defunct and is used to store new cars before they're sold.

I was working there one summer and was sat on my break watching some rabbits when the biggest feral cat jumped out of the grass, grabbed a big rabbit and ran off.

I was also once volunteering at a cat rescue place. We had a feral cat who had had kittens and I was the only one able to go into her cage without getting attacked. Guess it's my cat pissy musk they like! :D

I hate cats.

You should hear the shit they say about you!

thisonehasalittlehat - 17 Dec 2018 10:30:51 (#14 of 54)

I'm not doing my best to kill cats but they are doing their best to kill me, so throw them all in the river I say.

Gotout - 17 Dec 2018 10:41:42 (#15 of 54)

They must be pretty big cats if they're trying to kill you.

thisonehasalittlehat - 17 Dec 2018 10:46:01 (#16 of 54)

Not really. They're normal sized. But excessively fluffy. With poisonous fur.

Gotout - 17 Dec 2018 10:49:51 (#17 of 54)

It wasn't one of these was it?

https://tinyurl.com/y8r3ok3c

Agaliarept - 17 Dec 2018 11:28:04 (#18 of 54)

Not really. They're normal sized. But excessively fluffy. With poisonous fur.

So technically you don't hate these cats?

https://www.catster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/sphynx-kittens-play.jpg

thisonehasalittlehat - 17 Dec 2018 12:02:03 (#19 of 54)

Hmmm....

virgil5 - 17 Dec 2018 15:47:56 (#20 of 54)

B O R I N G

Oh well: I've seen leaves turn. I've had many cats, so there you go.

In fact, we had 13 cats at one time when I was growing up in Maine. We had two barns, so they had plenty of room.

My mom took one look at a black female kitten with six claws on each front paw and a very long tail and said "She's a ratter. I'll take her."

She named her "Sooty". Sooty went on to live up to all expectations.

A very wise cat, Sooty was very aware of her surroundings, especially the timing of things.

Three times in a row she had six kittens between 7pm and 8pm on a November Wednesday night when I was the only one there.

After the first time, she would wait until 6:30pm, then scratch on the dresser drawer where she liked to have her kittens, so I could take out the good clothes and put in the special blanket she liked. Then I would sit by the drawer as she carefully washed each kitten and held them up for examination. Some she obviously liked more than others. She really liked one, a tiger we (of course) named "Tom", who disappeared after about six months.

Five years later "Tom" came back at the same time Sooty had just had another litter. Quite a large cat by then, he joined right in suckling with the newborns like no time had passed, with no objection from Sooty.

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