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Started by emorobot on Jan 9, 2019 10:16:45 AM
Shutdown fun!

Sorry Commies, but as we all know, Socialism is when the government does stuff, and the more stuff it does the more sosilister it gets. So a government that does nothing, not even pay its workers, is the least sosialisted of all, therefore the best!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46739180

  • Science is the work of the Devil and will be affected by the Shutdown. Good!


  • Government employees are, by definition, useless - practically welfare recipients! And will be shut down! (except for the guards who protect Our Fearless Leaders of course)


  • AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS?!?
THOSE COMMIES?!?!?

  • Sick people on Medicare or whatever its called can fuck off and all, the sponging bastards!


  • Shut it down, shut it down, shut it down. Then use the money to build a Wall so that nobody can ever come here. WIN!

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AdrianNTierney - 09 Jan 2019 19:41:13 (#1 of 38)

So you're missing out on all the finer points of this silly shutdown charade, emo.

It's a PARTIAL shutdown, firstly. The way the US Congress operates, it passes budgets for each of the twenty one Cabinet departments, plus the so-called 'independent' agencies. The Congress has failed to pass the budgets of NINE departments plus some of the 'independent' agencies.

So it's this nine agencies, primarily, that are being 'shutdown'. But the suspension of employees is limited to so-called non-essential employees only. The others, deemed 'essential', continue to do their work - there's just no funding to pay their salaries, that's all.

BenSawbridg - 09 Jan 2019 19:47:32 (#2 of 38)

That's OK then.

AdrianNTierney - 09 Jan 2019 19:50:58 (#3 of 38)

No, but it could be worse, of course.

And sane people wouldn't put it past Trump either, of course.

HouseOfLametta - 09 Jan 2019 19:52:10 (#4 of 38)

I wish our fucking government would shut down for a bit.

bossab2 - 09 Jan 2019 20:25:51 (#5 of 38)

The others, deemed 'essential', continue to do their work - there's just no funding to pay their salaries, that's all.

Clearly commies or hippies if they continue to work without being paid

Garden - 09 Jan 2019 21:40:30 (#6 of 38)

Unfortunately, government is shut down but Congress isn't. And that con artist in the White House is still hard at work.

barkis - 09 Jan 2019 21:42:22 (#7 of 38)

I assume Trump is still payed. How does that work?

Garden - 09 Jan 2019 22:13:41 (#8 of 38)

I suspect that his paychecks come from an office that is considered essential, so those employees are still working. They just won't get a paycheck.

If he was thinking about winning another term in 2020 he wouldn't have done this - there are federal employees in all 50 states, and they really like getting their paychecks.

And there are federal government contractors who will never get paid.

This shutdown is completely irrational.

AdrianNTierney - 10 Jan 2019 00:55:38 (#9 of 38)

Unfortunately, government is shut down but Congress isn't.

Just a part of The Guv is shut - nine out of fourteen departments. And the Congress, with a bit of thought and a small application of cleverness, could whip up a bill to pay those employees who're currently working.

But that bit of thought and cleverness us also extremely difficult to find in any Congress, let alone this one.

I assume Trump is still payed. How does that work?

Trump and the people working in the Whit Hour are paid out of an appropriation for the Office of the President. The Congress passed that bill.

brooklyn - 10 Jan 2019 03:24:15 (#10 of 38)

<<Just a part of The Guv is shut - nine out of fourteen departments.>>

that's why all these complaints are just silly. only a bit over half the departments; all silly to worry about that.

<<And the Congress, with a bit of thought and a small application of cleverness, could whip up a bill to pay those employees who're currently working. But that bit of thought and cleverness us also extremely difficult to find in any Congress, let alone this one.>>

or even fund departments, if necessary one at a time. gee. if only the democrats were receptive to ending the pain.

emorobot - 10 Jan 2019 13:12:28 (#11 of 38)

It's a PARTIAL shutdown, firstly.

It's not a partial shutdown for the poor fuckers who aren't getting paid. The sponging bastards!

cozzer - 10 Jan 2019 13:31:20 (#12 of 38)

I assume Trump is still payed. How does that work?

the Kremlin isn't affected by the shutdown.

FleurDuMal - 10 Jan 2019 13:36:57 (#13 of 38)

Zinnggg!

AdrianNTierney - 10 Jan 2019 14:21:12 (#14 of 38)

The Congress had more than sufficient time to pass the appropriation (budget) bills for all the departments of The Guv. They just couldn't be bothered to do that fundamental part of their job in the previous nine months, that's all.

FrankieTeardrop - 10 Jan 2019 14:37:53 (#15 of 38)

I'd've thought you were a Trump fan, Adrian. Have I got this wrong? Apologies if so, it is a terrible accusation to level at someone who doesn't deserve it.

BenSawbridg - 10 Jan 2019 14:40:49 (#16 of 38)

Even AmWo couldn't summon much enthusiasm for The Donald, IIRC. The thing is, even the craziest seppoes on here only hint at the the insanity to be found in the heartlands.

AdrianNTierney - 10 Jan 2019 15:03:00 (#17 of 38)

I'd've thought you were a Trump fan, Adrian. Have I got this wrong?

YES! Clear enough?

The greater majority of Brits seem unable to bend their minds around the reality of American politics - that a presidential election is NOT about choosing the "best" candidate, but rather about choosing the lesser of two unpalatable choices.

AdrianNTierney - 10 Jan 2019 15:06:19 (#18 of 38)

... even the craziest seppoes on here only hint at the the insanity to be found in the heartlands.

A good example of Brit ignorance and non-comprehension. A simple review of economic data from the Obama years versus the two years of Trump rather starkly rivals the consequences of Hillary's 'promise' to be "Obama 2.0".

cozzer - 10 Jan 2019 17:08:33 (#19 of 38)

Brits seem unable to bend their minds around the reality of American politics - that a presidential election is NOT about choosing the "best" candidate, but rather about choosing the lesser of two unpalatable choices.

Apart from those two things being the same thing, this is bullshit. We completely understand that choice, that's why it's completely baffling that Trump won.

A simple review of economic data from the Obama years versus the two years of Trump rather starkly rivals the consequences of Hillary's 'promise' to be "Obama 2.0".

You're saying that American voters didn't want the economy to continue to improve as it had under Obama, so they elected Trump to deliberately sabotage it? Maybe you're right, maybe the rest of the world doesn't understand Americans.

AdrianNTierney - 10 Jan 2019 18:12:52 (#20 of 38)

You're saying that American voters didn't want the economy to continue to improve as it had under Obama, so they elected Trump to deliberately sabotage it?



You're rather missing the point there, cozz.

The economy improved under Obama at a sickeningly slow pace, with Guv-selected winners-n-losers. Under the Trump regime, everyone, most particularly the lower-earning class, has improved their economic status at a far more rapid rate.

What you're missing here is that Hillary 'promised' much more slow-motion economic policies with face-saving waves to the 1%. And NOTHING much for the slobs in the street. The Coastal lite were quit happy for such policies for they were prime beneficiaries of Obama-style policies.

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