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Started by KanKhaderKhanKan on Jan 19, 2020 6:08:56 PM
FBI - "Saudi government 'almost certainly' helps it's citizens escape prosecution for serious crimes"

This allegation is reported in The Oregonian:

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/01/fbi-saudi-government-almost-certainly-helps-its-citizens-escape-prosecution-in-us-for-serious-crimes.html

You would almost think that after the Kashoggi incident, and the alleged role of Saudi Arabia in connection to the 9/11 hijackers (according to the US Senator chairing the Senate investigation into 9/11?), that if not the corrupt (due to lobbying efforts by Saudi-hired lobbyists?) US executive then at least the US legislature and US judiciary would be alot more circumspect in their dealings with the US government no?

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SinnerBoy - 19 Jan 2020 18:15:59 (#1 of 11)

Blimey, I bet they're pissed off. Only they're allowed to help their citizens evade justice, in other countries.

KanKhaderKhanKan - 19 Jan 2020 18:16:01 (#2 of 11)

Over in the UK this of course barely gets reported as it's often so common, though to be fair the Saudis doing such crimes tend to be wealthy Saudi princes who may hold diplomatic passports and thus above the law:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/oct/05/saudi-prince-abdulaziz-killed-servant-court-hears

Excerpt from the above link:

Saud Abdulaziz bin Nasser al-Saud had previously subjected Bandar Abdulaziz to physical assaults and mistreatment, the Old Bailey was told.

The 32-year-old victim was found on 15 February beaten and strangled in bed at the London hotel room he was sharing with the prince.

A series of injuries, including bite marks to Abdulaziz's cheeks, revealed the "ferocity of the attack to which he had been subjected", the jury heard.

The prince at first claimed his aide had been robbed and attacked in Edgware Road three weeks before his death. But CCTV footage from a lift at the Landmark hotel in Marylebone, where they were staying, showed the victim had been subjected to a "really nasty assault" by the defendant himself on 22 January, said Jonathan Laidlaw QC, prosecuting.

As you can see such horrendous behaviour is quite common amongst wealthy Saudis who think they above the laws of foreign countries as they're so used to being able to act with violent impunity in their home country, what I still don't understand is why any wealthy (i.e. wealthy enough to avoid needing Saudi 'investment' AKA money laundering in their country) western country keep tolerating/indulging the Saudis in their country in violent crimes as well as financial (e.g. allowed to invest in home corporations and 'invest' in state infrastructure for rent-seeking purposes for the Saudi royal family despite blatant money-laundering activity by said individuals) misdemeanors?

KanKhaderKhanKan - 19 Jan 2020 18:44:50 (#3 of 11)

BTW in case anyone is wondering where I got the below from: and the alleged role of Saudi Arabia in connection to the 9/11 hijackers (according to the US Senator chairing the Senate investigation into 9/11?)

I recommend they listen to this interview with a former US Senator who was on the 9/11 committee and who openly points the finger at a Saudi royal:

https://therealnews.com/stories/sen-bob-graham-fbi-covered-up-role-of-bandar-and-saudis-in-9-11-attacks-pt-1-2

KanKhaderKhanKan - 21 Jan 2020 23:21:47 (#4 of 11)

You think this Saudi story about obstructing justice was a nutty one? Then how about this:

this time it's about how the Saudis hacked the phone of Jeff Bezos months before the Kashoggi murder (because Kashoggi was due to write for Bezos' paper Washington Post?) according to this London Guardian story:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jan/21
/amazon-boss-jeff-bezoss-phone-hacked-by-saudi-crown-prince?CMP=share_btn_tw


Excerpt from the above link: "The Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos had his mobile phone “hacked” in 2018 after receiving a WhatsApp message that had apparently been sent from the personal account of the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, sources have told the Guardian.

The encrypted message from the number used by Mohammed bin Salman is believed to have included a malicious file that infiltrated the phone of the world’s richest man, according to the results of a digital forensic analysis.

This analysis found it “highly probable” that the intrusion into the phone was triggered by an infected video file sent from the account of the Saudi heir to Bezos, the owner of the Washington Post."

So let me ask you guys the question - Judging by the behaviour Saudi Arabia has been engaged in (e.g. helping fugitives escape justice according to FBI, having links to the 9/11 according to the former chairman of the US Senate committee on 9/11, murdering Kashoggi a US resident, hacking the phone of Bezos) how on earth is Saudi Arabia not already listed as much a 'rogue state' as say Iran or North Korea?

BTW I'm surprised this story has so few takers.

Jacob_Richter - 21 Jan 2020 23:31:34 (#5 of 11)

how on earth is Saudi Arabia not already listed as much a 'rogue state' as say Iran or North Korea?

Because 'rogue states' are the states that don't tow the American line or are not allies of America. States that are allies of America can be as 'rogue' as they like, as, indeed, can the USA itself which is the world's leading 'rogue' state.

brooklyn - 22 Jan 2020 02:22:46 (#6 of 11)

well. um. apart from that.

browserbutton - 22 Jan 2020 06:40:12 (#7 of 11)

William Burroughs wrote about this in Naked Lunch (back in 1959).

Clem and Jody give out they are interested in the destruction of Near East oil fields to boost the value of their Venezuelan holdings.

Clem writes a number to the tune of “Crawdad” (Big Bill Broonzy).

What you gonna do when the oil runs dry?

Gonna sit right there and watch those Arabs die.

KanKhaderKhanKan - 24 Jan 2020 14:19:57 (#8 of 11)

If you guys assumed that the Kashoggi was the only Saudi assassination attempt abroad then think again:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/regime-critic-says-saudis-tried-to-kidnap-him-on-us-soil

Note this would-be kidnapping and assassination by the Saudis happened on US soil and luckily foiled by the FBI.

thismorning - 03 Apr 2020 02:53:28 (#9 of 11)

Right ho. The FBI is ace at foiling crime, and,erm committing crimes. You can trust them, they are not like the others. But let us not dwell on the past.They must know what they are doing, otherwise something is very wrong somewhere.

thismorning - 03 Apr 2020 02:57:12 (#10 of 11)

--Hello, is this the FBI?--Yes, how may we help you?-- My grandson is about to kill people at Parkland High School.

--Thank you, we will get back to you.

virgil5 - 03 Apr 2020 03:06:03 (#11 of 11)

Trump accusation hot line assistants are currently busy with other accusors. Please hold. Your waiting time is approximately 2 to 3 days.

You can still turn yourself in. Press 1 now for the Citizen's Isolation Self Arrest line.

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