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Started by mingmong on Mar 30, 2020 7:04:56 PM
CV in the US

You lot may want to talk about this among yourselves

I have a couple of questions which bear on our situation on the other side of the pond, see #1

mingmong - 30 Mar 2020 19:06:52 (#1 of 1311)

My questions:

1) is there any (official) lockdown going on in NYC at the moment

2) what is the weather like there at the moment (sunlight and temperature levels)

3) how are people feeling about it generally

Garden - 30 Mar 2020 19:53:31 (#2 of 1311)

Heavens, Mingmong, it's a big country. That's a bit like asking how the weather in Europe is.

The New York Times and the Washington Post are putting a lot of effort into reporting this and tracking cases.

As to official lockdowns, this report is valuable, has state-specific details:

Alabama doesn't want to be California, so is probably going to have an extremely high mortality rate.

Garden - 30 Mar 2020 19:56:39 (#3 of 1311)

Based on NYT numbers, I calculated a 1.8% mortality rate.

But again that varies widely. If that were consistent state to state, my rural state would have had about 3 deaths by now, but we've had none.

People here are self-quarantining with little pressure. It's the travelers arriving here we have to worry about.

mingmong - 30 Mar 2020 19:58:39 (#4 of 1311)

I suppose my lockdown and weather questions are more about NYC where the outbreak seems to be worst (as I understand it)

mingmong - 30 Mar 2020 20:01:35 (#5 of 1311)

Weather is of interest because im still wondering about a possible UV effect.

Because of relatively low lockdown rates, the US offers a possible case study of what might happen if a thing like this left to run over the course of a summer. If it just dies away of its own accordin the US, we might conclude there is a UV effect

Garden - 30 Mar 2020 20:01:59 (#6 of 1311)

Well, DeBlasio was pretty late to the game, telling people well into March that they should continue going out to restaurants etc.

All that's shut down now. I don't listen to him, I do listen to Andrew Cuomo press conferences. There's tension between the two men.

But yes, NYC is the epicenter, and into New Jersey.

Garden - 30 Mar 2020 20:03:07 (#7 of 1311)

Weather is of interest because im still wondering about a possible UV effect.

Well, another epicenter is Louisiana, especially New Orleans. Their weather is warmer than NYC.

mingmong - 30 Mar 2020 20:03:16 (#8 of 1311)

Where are you based Garden?

Garden - 30 Mar 2020 20:05:41 (#9 of 1311)

I'm in Hawai'i, Mingmong.

Loads of UV here. Extremely minimal community spread. I've been home from work (they call it telecommuting, but I have no means of logging into my work computer, so I call it quarantine) for two weeks now.

mingmong - 30 Mar 2020 20:06:28 (#10 of 1311)

Interesting Garden. Keep us posted.

Verdigris - 30 Mar 2020 20:11:48 (#11 of 1311)

Any effects, from lower industrial activity, on the CO2 levels at Mauna Loa yet, Garden?

Garden - 30 Mar 2020 20:13:02 (#12 of 1311)

Today's Andrew Cuomo press conference:

Garden - 30 Mar 2020 20:13:43 (#13 of 1311)

Any effects, from lower industrial activity, on the CO2 levels at Mauna Loa yet, Garden?

I don't know, Verdigris. I'll see what I can find out.

brooklyn - 30 Mar 2020 20:40:00 (#14 of 1311)

it's March/April, ming. our weather is dramatically variable. the last few days have come with highs around 55 degrees (13 C), and the week ahead is expected to be the same, and getting a bit warmer. rain the last few days, dry to the weekend. that's pretty normal.

but if you want longer than that: up and down. but I'd say Feb/March a bit warmer and drier than usual.

we've had suggestions, and then advisories, to stay home since about March 10. "keep distance and wash hands" a bit before that. travel to "essential" jobs and for food and medicine, excepted.

it isn't a "lockdown" like w/ a school shooting or an infected cruise ship. you stay at home. but e.g. solitary outdoor exercise is ok. running, walking, biking. today I sat on a park bench 100 yards from home and then took a walk in the park for a total of about 90 minutes at lunchtime. these days, as opposed to a week or 10 days ago, everyone keeps distance.

so far, no "enforcement" that I've seen. they started off saying that they'd enforce against businesses, and just give warnings to people. and act to disperse groups.

today's ny times has a sad story about a bunch of ex-basketball buddies who met for a large party on March 14th. now two are dead, and others infected.

my group had an annual dinner planned for the same day; about 100 people plus the hall's staff. we held out until about the 11th before recognizing that we had to cancel it. and we're therefore all still alive.

virgil5 - 30 Mar 2020 20:40:23 (#15 of 1311)

The Catskills is a couple hour drive NW from the City.

Many people have summer homes they're escaping to now, but no locals so far at roadblocks with pitchforks (not ruled out yet :-)

The county is sending out letters to known City residents to stay home, but all of the ones I know have ignored them.

I went out to the mailbox today and carefully put the mail in a plastic bag while wearing gloves. I left the non-essential mail outside, hoping for a UV effect, while wiping the essential mail with disinfectant. The post office is closed but they sent out an envelope if you need to buy stamps.

Local hospitals still OK but I know they proably don't have many ventilators. No hotels or resorts turned into hospitals yet that I know of.

Many people still walking around with no masks (masks are not arriving when ordered online). Cat food not arriving from online.

Catskill folk fleeing to Florida from the usual cabin fever is out, but I think there's a new Catskill Pride at our traditional back country hermit ways.

Garden - 30 Mar 2020 20:42:49 (#16 of 1311)

I don't know if there's been much of a change, Verdigris.

Verdigris - 30 Mar 2020 20:45:05 (#17 of 1311)

Thanks, Garden. Doesn't seem 5 minutes since we broke the 400ppm barrier.

cozzer - 30 Mar 2020 21:12:35 (#18 of 1311)

It’s called a resume.

lammaMia - 30 Mar 2020 21:13:15 (#19 of 1311)

there's a new Catskill Pride at our traditional back country hermit ways

Millennials feel the same way about meetings in meatspaces, except with the deliverers.

cozzer - 30 Mar 2020 21:13:17 (#20 of 1311)

Weather is of interest because im still wondering about a possible UV effect.

It’s spreading in Australia, I think that probably argues against a UV effect.

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