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Started by TheVoiceOfReason on Nov 2, 2021 5:19:28 PM
Fury as Canadian academic claims to be NATIVE AMERICAN…but turns out to be RUSSIAN!

A Canadian academic has been placed on administrative leave from her university after an investigation challenged her claims of Indigenous ancestry. Carrie Bourassa has described herself as having Métis, Anishinaabe and Tlingit heritage. She regularly wore a blue embroidered shawl and FEATHER, identifying herself as “Morning Star Bear”.

However, a shock investigation has revealed that Bourassa is entirely of RUSSIAN descent. In a statement, she said she identified as Métis and that elders who supported her did not rely on mere “blood quantums” to assess Indigenous identity.

TheFLUFFIESTKittenEvah - 02 Nov 2021 17:24:17 (#1 of 29)


browserbutton - 02 Nov 2021 17:28:55 (#2 of 29)

a shock investigation has revealed that Bourassa is entirely of RUSSIAN descent.

Aren't all Native Americans of Russian descent?

Arjuna - 02 Nov 2021 17:44:04 (#3 of 29)

Oh, those Russians.

Geribaldi - 02 Nov 2021 19:33:49 (#4 of 29)

browser - "Aren't all Native Americans of Russian descent?"

Don't give Putin any ideas.

angelico - 02 Nov 2021 19:52:51 (#5 of 29)

Self ID. What could possibly be wrong with that?

carterbrandon - 02 Nov 2021 19:59:31 (#6 of 29)

Native American

First Nations, if you please. Especially since this is a Canada, not a USA news item.

Sabacious - 02 Nov 2021 20:02:25 (#7 of 29)

Not in this case, First Nation does not cover Metis, which she also claims to be, so I think the correct term is aboriginal.

brooklyn - 02 Nov 2021 20:03:43 (#8 of 29)

call them First Nations or Native Americans: they aren't related to today's "Russians," or even much to today's Siberians. the immigrants to the US (who happily didn't have to worry about white guys at the border) were descended from a group that, in Russia, seems not to have survived. hey, at least we didn't kill all of our folks of that ethnicity... maybe we should re-examine Custer's pedigree....

Arjuna - 02 Nov 2021 20:05:11 (#9 of 29)

Métis is the French term for mixed race

AdonisBlue - 02 Nov 2021 20:47:56 (#10 of 29)

#6 That's quite funny. I'm so old I remember people being told to say Native American instead of Red Indian. Now people are being told off for saying Native American. Probably by the same people who want to signal their worthyness. In a few years those using First Nation will be told off for not using whatever the latest term is.

tasselhoff - 02 Nov 2021 20:50:08 (#11 of 29)

Shut up, you blathering dullard.

Delighted_User - 02 Nov 2021 21:07:07 (#12 of 29)

I wonder if I'm the only person to have been pushed into falsely claiming Native American identity. For whatever unfathomable reason, people have often thought that I was part Native American, although it is staggeringly unlikely. Indeed, a German once lectured me on how I shouldn't be ashamed of it, as he assumed shame was the only reason I wouldn't admit to it. This is annoying.

For which reason I did a bit of research on tribes that didn't have many members, and settled on Humptulips, for obvious reasons. The same reasons that Terry Pratchett had, I imagine, though I didn't know it at the time. If I encountered an idiot who insisted I had to be part Native American, I didn't bother arguing pointlessly, just smiled and spoke of my Humptulips heritage. I never thought I'd run into any genuine ones who could rightfully have been offended, and I didn't, but it was wrong even so, and I'd like to apologise to any who might read this, somewhat belatedly.

GyratingTrampoline - 09 Nov 2021 08:12:01 (#13 of 29)

The US side of my family long cultivated a myth that they had some native american heritage, mostly based on a grainy 19th c. photo of my maternal great great grandmother whose cheekbones make her look like she could easily be part native american. So excited were they by this possibility that my aunt had her DNA profiled but the results came back saying that she is 100% white... (whatever that means and assuming we are to believe such things)

InternationalVicar - 09 Nov 2021 08:42:18 (#14 of 29)

Métis is the French term for mixed race

It's also a vaguely defined legal category with actual membership card and perks - mainly hunting and fishing rights. A capital M is indicative of usage.

HouseOfLametta - 09 Nov 2021 08:56:40 (#15 of 29)

Being a Red Indian was a big deal in the early C20. I had an uncle from Smethwick who called himself Red Wolf and went to Pow Wows in Belgium.

InternationalVicar - 09 Nov 2021 09:00:13 (#16 of 29)

Not to mention the Moose Lodges

HouseOfLametta - 09 Nov 2021 09:14:30 (#17 of 29)

Don't mention the Moose Lodges.

HouseOfLametta - 09 Nov 2021 09:15:01 (#18 of 29)

There was this chap, who seems to have been a very successful beaver hunter.

Agaliarept - 09 Nov 2021 09:15:55 (#19 of 29)

Being a Red Indian was a big deal in the early C20. I had an uncle from Smethwick who called himself Red Wolf and went to Pow Wows in Belgium.

Similarly I knew a bloke who worked at a car transport yard with me.

Him and his wife would go to these western meets. He would show me pictures of himself in full tribal get up. Totally tone deaf to the times but he was very knowledgeable about the First Nations people and their tribes.

My dad tells me his father (Mexican) often spoke of his lineage being Aztec. I've wondered if I should do a DNA test and find out but I never know what I would do with that knowledge.

TheSwearingBear - 09 Nov 2021 09:23:21 (#20 of 29)

Reclaim Las Vegas?

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