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Started by Skylined on Dec 10, 2018 1:56:06 PM
Just been made redundant. What do I do?

Shitting in handbags is taken as read...

Skylined - 10 Dec 2018 13:56:15 (#1 of 276)

So after 5 years as a developer, my firm has decided to make my role redundant. On the face of it, it's not necessarily a bad thing, but a combination of timing plus low self esteem mean i'm a bit worried about the future.

I work with VBA and SQL Server with a bit of C#, but because I don't have a structured background in software engineering, I feel like I'm a bit fucked because people eith my experience are better/younger/cheaper/overseas. However, i do enjoy being a developer so i'm not really looking to change career. Does anyone have any thoughts on what sort of technologies I should be concentrating on to make people more likely to want to hire me? I started to learn Python through Pluralsight onlone training but life got in the way a bit. Given that I am likely to have three months gardening leave, I will have the freedom to do some.serious training.

Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Moschops - 10 Dec 2018 14:03:20 (#2 of 276)

Firstly, don't panic. IT skills are still in demand, and I'm sure that you are much better than you are presenting above. I'm not especially technically gifted, and somehow I have remained employed in IT.

Whereabouts in the country are you? What sectors have you worked in? Are you only considering permie roles, or would contracting be an option?

Always seems to be sql DBA roles around, is that possibility? Sql with C# seems to be a decent enough skillset.

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Jacob_Richter - 10 Dec 2018 14:07:22 (#4 of 276)

Normo Tebbs there.

Reindeerlia - 10 Dec 2018 14:08:01 (#5 of 276)

I second Not Panicking. Also enjoy the garden leave, as well as using it for studying.

There are plenty of IT roles available at the moment - did you specialise in any specific type of development?

helbel - 10 Dec 2018 14:13:17 (#6 of 276)

If my company were hiring I'd suggest you throw in a CV. We use all those technologies. Lots of companies have legacy software that they want to maintain, not everything has to be bleeding edge.

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HerrWalrus - 10 Dec 2018 14:23:22 (#8 of 276)

I'm not especially technically gifted, and somehow I have remained employed in IT.

There again, plenty of others (like myself) who didn't remain employed in IT despite being willing to move around.

Skylined - the best advice I can give is to get back working as soon as possible. Go for contract work that is underpaid (100-150 a day instead of the 300-400 that some earn). Keep working and picking up new skills that way. The worst thing is to get gaps of more than a few weeks on your cv. Agents hate that (they assume lots of negative things) and will keep you off their prospects list they send to clients. Also - learn new skills at jobs where you can plausibly claim to have used them. Someone who has "18 months experience of Python at xxx corp" will always get the nod over someone who has "studied Python at home for x years".

Also - try and speak to some honest agents (I know, I know). They can tell you the reality of the market far better than those trapped in it. If only they did so more often.

gordonthemoron - 10 Dec 2018 14:27:59 (#9 of 276)

you could get AWS Cloud Developer certified which seems popular at the moment. According to my daughter in law, young people aren't keen on software these days so don't expect to be disregarded in favour of someone younger

HerrWalrus - 10 Dec 2018 14:31:12 (#10 of 276)

Iirc LapsedCat knows about the recruitment agent game. Maybe he could shed some tips about finding the next role?

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JohnIlly - 10 Dec 2018 14:34:12 (#12 of 276)

I am likely to have three months gardening

Start looking for work straight away. After three months leave you will start to enjoy being idle.

Tenesmus - 10 Dec 2018 14:36:32 (#13 of 276)

Being made redundant was one of the best things to happen to me, it helped fund a move to a worse paid but much more fulfilling job.

Accentuate the positive...

HouseOfLametta - 10 Dec 2018 14:47:02 (#14 of 276)

Me too.

hailesaladdie - 10 Dec 2018 15:45:14 (#15 of 276)

Yup. I got made redundant a few years ago in a job that was basically stagnating, but where I didn't have the motivation to properly get up and leave. Very glad it did.

Get yourself on to the job sites: LinkedIn, CV Library, Indeed. I'm finding most useful contacts from recruiters coming through LinkedIn at the moment, but that could just be my particular corner of IT. Highlight all your specialities, and make it buzzword heavy. Always feels ridiculous, but that's how you turn up in the right searches.

If you're worried about being overlooked as a developer, then consider Tech Lead / Tech Architect roles. They do have a wide definition of what they include, but it's more common these days to want people to be designer/coders.

If you've got or can get any cloud experience - even if it's just working with containers - play it up.

Reindeerlia - 10 Dec 2018 16:36:22 (#16 of 276)

Being made redundant was one of the best things to happen to me,

And me.

Also, if you do a couple of Job searches on Linked In you'll probably find they offer you a few trial subscription to the premium version which gives you much better access to vacancies. It's well worth having while you're looking for a role.

GyratingTrampoline - 10 Dec 2018 16:57:27 (#17 of 276)

One bit of advice for job hunting as a developer - never give recruiters your real email address or they will spam you for the rest of your life! And you can't block them as they will change addresses themselves. Use a throwaway gmail account or similar instead.

JohnIlly - 10 Dec 2018 20:09:10 (#18 of 276)

Have recruiters improved at all? The last time I needed them I found that they contacted me about all sorts of irrelevant jobs, perhaps because a couple of letters in various acronyms in my CV matched some in the job description.

GyratingTrampoline - 10 Dec 2018 20:17:35 (#19 of 276)

They're still pushy, obsequious and ignorant

NotNixerNoMore - 10 Dec 2018 20:27:12 (#20 of 276)

It might be worth researching tech companies in your area and doing some on spec applications - I've twice got programming jobs this way and it saves you having to deal with IT recruiters who are mostly pretty awful IME.

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